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If Django had lived longer.....

cmcmurphy22cmcmurphy22 New Bumgarner, Zwinakis
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if he hadn’t checked out early and had lived a long life, I often wonder what musicians he would have liked.

maybe in an alternate universe Django drops a bunch of acid in the 60’s and becomes a big admirer of the dead.

personally I think he would have loved what Phil lesh was doing. Would have liked Jerry but could run circles around him. But Phil....🤔

all ideas are good ideas on this thread😉

ChrisMartin
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  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,194

    He def seemed to be headed into bebop.

    cmcmurphy22
  • Bill Da Costa WilliamsBill Da Costa Williams Barreiro, Portugal✭✭✭ Mateos
    Posts: 447

    I suspect he would have been drawn to modern sounds like Bireli produced on My Favorite Django :


    cmcmurphy22
  • V-dubV-dub San Francisco, CA✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2020 Posts: 304

    You don't have to look far for that parallel universe: Grappelli went on to play with the classic American jazz greats, including Oscar Peterson, Joe Pass and produce fine recordings in the bebop style. One of my favorite records, in fact: "Skol" 1979, which I think represents the culmination of a career spanning the half-decade past the 1930s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ThtKuIhR6Y

    Grappelli also collaborated with the finest classical virtuosos of the 70s and 80s. I think Django would have followed a very similar path.

    He probably would not have gone fusion. That was for the next generation. Yes he was very forward looking, but it's generally rare for the old timers of the era to stray from their roots.

    Bill Da Costa Williamsbillyshakescmcmurphy22Buco
  • billyshakesbillyshakes NoVA✭✭✭ Park Avance - Altamira M10
    Posts: 725

    So we don't think Tony Iommi would have invited Django onstage to jam with Black Sabbath? Considering all the classical music influences Django had, he could have jumpstarted the neo-classical guitar movement of Yngwie shredders a decade earlier!

    BucoV-dubvanmalmsteencmcmurphy22Bill Da Costa Williams
  • stuologystuology New
    Posts: 116

    Grappelli also ended up on a Pink Floyd record so I don’t think we can rule Django out of being on a rock record. Maybe he would have added some Hot Club lines to Michelle? He would most likely have been very sniffy about the new music until he realised he had many fans in that scene, then he would have headed to London to be feted by all the new guitar heroes.

    Either that or he would have taken the gig with Bing Crosby, relocated to the US and spent the rest of his life playing in Las Vegas Casinos, living off the income from his bestselling long-player Django plays the Beatles.

    BucoBill Da Costa Williamsrudolfochrist
  • bbwood_98bbwood_98 Brooklyn, NyProdigy Vladimir music! Les Effes. . Its the best!
    Posts: 549

    @V-dub

    "He probably would not have gone fusion. That was for the next generation. Yes he was very forward looking, but it's generally rare for the old timers of the era to stray from their roots."

    Man, I'm not as sure about that. . . . See Miles Davis. Django pretty much invented whole cloth a new way to play guitar, and perhaps a style of jazz (with HCOF and Grappelli). Who's to say he would not have done that again? Certainly there is lot's of evidence that Django was absorbing the bebop language - I'd venture to guess he could have absorbed whatever language there was to hear. . .you do wonder if he know about the "race records" just before his death that would have featured Little Richard or someone like that (Rosetta Tharpe records). Or if he knew about Shidaiqu or Mariachi, or Perez Prado recording the first mambo (all in the 40's mostly).

    Somewhere I heard a theory that he would become like a George Benson with singing and guitar.

    Bill Da Costa Williams
  • scotscot Virtuoso
    Posts: 593

    Since he'd become more interested in composing as he got older, and was known to enjoy movies, I always figured he'd done like his friend Henri Crolla did (very successfully), and go into the world of writing music for films. His musical ideas were increasingly sophisticated after the war and would have been perfect for the kind of films being made in 50s France. Plus, I think he was a bit bored with performing/playing the guitar in nightclubs.

    BucorudolfochristBill Da Costa Williams
  • billyshakesbillyshakes NoVA✭✭✭ Park Avance - Altamira M10
    Posts: 725

    Can you imagine him doing the soundtrack for a Louis Malle or a Truffaut film? He would have been the hippest of the hip.

  • Lango-DjangoLango-Django Niagara-On-The-Lake, ONModerator
    Posts: 1,736

    As long as we are firmly in fantasy world, what if Django (born 1910) and Eddie Lang (born 1903) had formed a guitar duo?

    cmcmurphy22Bucobillyshakes
    Paul Cezanne: "I could paint for a thousand years without stopping and I would still feel as though I knew nothing."

    Edgar Degas: "Only when he no longer knows what he is doing does the painter do good things.... To draw, you must close your eyes and sing."

    Georges Braque: "In art there is only one thing that counts: the bit that can’t be explained."
  • stuologystuology New
    Posts: 116

    Django had a hard enough time sharing the limelight with Stephane, I can’t imagine him teaming up with another guitarist! Unless Eddie was happy to just play chords - and carry Django’s guitar case.

    Bill Da Costa WilliamsBucobillyshakesBones
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