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this thread is confusing.
I'm not really good at making money but counterfeiting guitars that aren't worth all that much and are only interesting to an incredibly niche audience of like 250 people seems like a good way to make some $$$$$ to me. How can I start?
Thanks to the KKKaren out there that recently flagged our Reverb post - you got your wish for now, but be aware that lots of people think these label are bitching and will continue to use them to supplement their restoration projects.
Wasn't me if that is the insinuation. I had forgotten about this year-old thread. Just seemed like a very small, niche market to me. Didn't know there were that many people missing labels looking for a new one. Good luck with your project.
You might be onto something, Paul! Reminds me of this old SNL sketch. How do we make money??? Volume!
Haha I remember a different change bank skit. That one is great. I didn't realize the guy had almost my name.
There's the other universal joke about the luthier who wins a million dollars and they ask what he's going to do with the money. "I'll just make guitars till the money runs out".
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"Well we needed to see and read this ^^^ to see how cool this project is."
Literally anyone that clicked through the link to the page with our Di Mauro labels could have read everything I posted on here. It is no secret. The issue is that a few people got up in arms without really looking into the labels, the project, or anything. It is not a huge leap to say this reactionary attitude and instant emotional outrage without all the facts is a concerning trend, not just in this thread, but in the larger world.
I guess my earlier comment seemed to rattle a few cages, but I was not aiming that at the original poster. If he is just using them on genuine Di Mauro instruments he is restoring, then no problem.
I was referring to guitar brand logos, decals and labels being on general sale to anyone that might have devious intentions. My example of the readily available Fender decals being applied to cheap copies and sold on as the real thing is a common problem. Or to put it in a GJ context, there was a flood of Chinese guitars appearing a few years ago, looking very like the ones Aiersi sell, with Dupont logos, and it was certainly reported that some people fell for the con. Not everyone would have access to inspecting a real Dupont to compare and if the photos for an online sale looked convincing enough they could get fooled. Yes Di Mauros are not exactly a top end brand but a convincing label could still make a $400 junker look like a $1,500 vintage buy.
I am not suggesting any skilled luthier would bother making guitars and then trying to pass them off as a Di Mauro which generally sell for similar prices, or even less, than a new luthier made guitar. But I do think there is a duty of care for anyone selling replacement parts, including logos and labels, to ascertain that the buyer is going to use them only on a genuine guitar. Maybe it would be possible to ask for a photo of the intended guitar maybe taken with some identity proof of the owner to stop anyone from just copying photos found on Google or such like?
So forums like this one should at least make potential Di Mauro buyers aware that the label alone is not proof of a guitar's provenance. We already are used to seeing many Sonoras for sale advertised as made by Busato just because that rumor is out there without any proof, and what if some of these started turning up with dubious Busato labels inside on the neck block.
Of course, as always it is 'buyer beware' but as we often see posts on here from people asking advice on buying this or that when they are thinking of buying online as they do not have access to trying a guitar locally, there is still a potential market for fakes.
Just saying......