I don't remember this thread from back then...but I'm glad to see it resurrected. It seems like DuPont reissues don't follow the original that closely. No wonder I wonder I always felt DuPont sounded different, and better to my ear, whenever I'd watch the comparison videos. Glad I learned that.
A friend got a vintage Stimer recently and was using a Kleio 47, both on his AER Compact 60/3, which is 'injured' (two pot shafts broken but controls feel OK, and a 3rd control physically 'wobbles', telling me a possible circuit board fracture could exist) but it still works. The Stimer has a much bolder sound than the Kleio, or has more output that the AER in its compromised condition sounds good with. REALLY good.
Communicating with AER about solutions, but the combination sounds awesome right now.
If that type of pickup is actually a mechanical microphone, literally reading hearing the terminology they use, rather than an electromagnetic pickup like most other guitars use, I would guess it is harder to copy mechanico-acoustic properties than electrical characteristics.
I used to just dismiss the term 'microphone' for these as an artifact of translation, because they look like sealed metal boxes under the strings. People don't put them in preferred random places like piezo sensors. I have no idea whether they work with nylon strings. That would strongly support vibration as the detection method, steel/nickel strings moving in a magnetic field.
There are such things as accelerometers, differential microphones, & other things, that may or may not be relevant, but they pick up mechanical vibrations.
Traditional dynamic mics, to my knowledge, commonly had/have a magnet, diaphragm & sort of 'voice coil', crudely comparable to a 'reverse loudspeaker' but optimized for numerous different conditions.
So copying the coil electrical properties as replicators of classic traditional pickups do, may suffice if it's a uniquely packaged EM pickup. Measurements of microphone behavior (mechanical:electrical transduction) would be involved if they depend more on mechanical vibration. Some replicator could manage to do that, but not all of them. There are plenty of replica or inspired-by classic traditional microphones now.
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I don't remember this thread from back then...but I'm glad to see it resurrected. It seems like DuPont reissues don't follow the original that closely. No wonder I wonder I always felt DuPont sounded different, and better to my ear, whenever I'd watch the comparison videos. Glad I learned that.
A friend got a vintage Stimer recently and was using a Kleio 47, both on his AER Compact 60/3, which is 'injured' (two pot shafts broken but controls feel OK, and a 3rd control physically 'wobbles', telling me a possible circuit board fracture could exist) but it still works. The Stimer has a much bolder sound than the Kleio, or has more output that the AER in its compromised condition sounds good with. REALLY good.
Communicating with AER about solutions, but the combination sounds awesome right now.
If that type of pickup is actually a mechanical microphone, literally reading hearing the terminology they use, rather than an electromagnetic pickup like most other guitars use, I would guess it is harder to copy mechanico-acoustic properties than electrical characteristics.
I used to just dismiss the term 'microphone' for these as an artifact of translation, because they look like sealed metal boxes under the strings. People don't put them in preferred random places like piezo sensors. I have no idea whether they work with nylon strings. That would strongly support vibration as the detection method, steel/nickel strings moving in a magnetic field.
There are such things as accelerometers, differential microphones, & other things, that may or may not be relevant, but they pick up mechanical vibrations.
Traditional dynamic mics, to my knowledge, commonly had/have a magnet, diaphragm & sort of 'voice coil', crudely comparable to a 'reverse loudspeaker' but optimized for numerous different conditions.
So copying the coil electrical properties as replicators of classic traditional pickups do, may suffice if it's a uniquely packaged EM pickup. Measurements of microphone behavior (mechanical:electrical transduction) would be involved if they depend more on mechanical vibration. Some replicator could manage to do that, but not all of them. There are plenty of replica or inspired-by classic traditional microphones now.