@limalima I'm not sure I understand why I need to rebuild whenever I want to use it... it's still early, I need my 2nd coffee. Wouldn't this do the trick to show the recently answered cards (from the article you linked)?
In this particular case, yesterday, I wanted to practice using these licks on my own, away from Anki. Thing is, (and I may be messing with the process again if I'm doing the work away from it) after few days that it's been quizzing me on a group of cards, and I've been answering "good", now they're scheduled to show up in 10-11 days. I'm like, what...lol. I get it, that's the whole point. In 10 days I might answer hard and then they'll go back into rotation. Until one day, after a 10 day break, I answer "good".
I think you'll need to rebuild the deck whenever you empty it. It doesn't dynamically populate from the search (at least not on my machine).
You're right, if you want to repeat all cards from today outside of the algorithm, use the search term you highlighted. I find this really useful at times and have been doing it for years - anecdotally, I don't find it has a negative effect on retention.
@Buco, I see you're searching in all the cards. You can make a "Filtered Deck" which will display as a deck in the app with these cards, and prompt you through them just like normal study (except outside normal study).
Tools -> Create Filtered Deck
Then put the options in for the search filter, and uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck"
And you'll have a new deck which is outside the algorithm for just reviewing the recent cards.
Maybe you had already understood this. But here it is explicitly for any future readers.
Ah I see, you sort of create a sub-deck. That's pretty cool too. This time I just needed it to remind me what I worked on. But this can come in handy. Maybe you select fewer cards that you want to put extra focus on and specifically try them in a live situation. Then you create this filtered deck and ultra focus on those only. I suppose in a way that's wanted to do, I just wanted to do it on my own. Thank you 👍
If I see any of you two in person, remind me to buy you a beer. Especially @Azazzell for getting this started.
Next up for practice with Anki stuff is the book I got about a year ago. I don't buy stuff usually, this is one of the two books I got in recent years. Another one is Remi Harris Gypsy Jazz licks and I got it to support the guy since I learned so much stuff from his YT videos that I use.
It's by Tim Lerch: Melodic Jazz Chord Dictionary. It's an interesting book because he designed it with arranging chord melodies in mind. The way it's structured is it groups the chords by its basic quality (maj, min, dom...etc) but then it breaks it down by where the melody note might fall. A picture will probably explain it better
I created a deck called Tim Lerch Voicings and then the subdecks as I tackle them. And I just started with the chords with the melody in the 3rd string.
Again, once you build a deck, it takes so much work out of getting you to practice. It makes it super easy and it doesn't feel like a chore. I just breezed through the set of chords that might have melody on the 3rd string. Easy voicings but I never used this stuff. And hey sound very nice. They would work great for accompanying a singer, for ballads accompanying a soloist etc...
What do your cards look like for that? Does the front say: Major 6, root on top on third string and the back of the card have the diagram?
Just like that, simple. The deck is named "Tim Lerch voicings". Then I created a subdeck "major chords, root on top, 3rd string melody". Then I'll just keep adding subdecks as I go through the book. I'll follow his own groupings of chords and make a subdeck for each, one chord/card at a time. At least that's the plan for now.
I figure if you know these positions well in major quality, then moving them into minor, dominant...etc is just a matter of moving the 3rd, 7th and so on, so the subsequent decks will be easier. Then there's putting them into actual use, that's where the real work starts...
Which I kinda started by coming up with this little thingy inspired by these initial voicings
Well, this is my update to this topic. Anki is cool, great tool. I still use it.
However I'm coming to think that acquiring and retaining the musical language that's to be used in the improvising context comes only through the brute force repetitions. I think you need to take a small piece of information and cram it in there. For an hour or longer. A single ii V I at the most. Nothing longer than that. Even that you should break down into smaller chunks and take it through the paces in various contexts.
Because what needs to happen is it needs to be accessible instantly. You don't have any time to think about it. It just needs to happen. So not only that you need to learn it, that might happen in a few minutes, not only that it needs to be fluid, that might happen in 10-20-30 minutes, it needs to be sent to the unconscious part of the brain. Sometimes you hear music educators talk about that as something negative, like they might say you always need to be aware of what you're playing and practicing. Well now I believe you need to go further past that and send it to the parts of the brain where the playing just happens without you thinking about it or being aware, if that makes sense.
Top players don't really go into the specifics regarding this. We know they work/worked extremely hard; several hours a day, every day, for several years. But there's been only a few instances where I heard someone say that they would take extremely small piece of musical information and practice it for an hour or longer.
A few years ago that was kinda unthinkable for me. Recently I did it with a few things I practiced. I felt it worked better than anything before. Something that would start as challenging, would then feel completely effortless towards the end of the hour. And it seems to stick much better. I might even have to repeat it several times. But in the end it's actually a lot faster way to retain stuff, than what I've been doing before.
Great post, Buco. I have no experience with Anki but this stood out to me:
However I'm coming to think that acquiring and retaining the musical language that's to be used in the improvising context comes only through the brute force repetitions.
Pretty much this. I've been working on diminished runs/arpeggios for the past 1-2 years that used to be extremely difficult for me but much like any skill, consistent repetition while practicing over that timeframe has now made them accessible, if not even far easier to play and I'm starting to use them during improv simply because my brain's been "programmed" into hearing them.
I think it was Marc L. who brought up the famous Bruce Lee quote in the "I suck" thread last year...in this context, worth repeating: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times"
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@limalima I'm not sure I understand why I need to rebuild whenever I want to use it... it's still early, I need my 2nd coffee. Wouldn't this do the trick to show the recently answered cards (from the article you linked)?
In this particular case, yesterday, I wanted to practice using these licks on my own, away from Anki. Thing is, (and I may be messing with the process again if I'm doing the work away from it) after few days that it's been quizzing me on a group of cards, and I've been answering "good", now they're scheduled to show up in 10-11 days. I'm like, what...lol. I get it, that's the whole point. In 10 days I might answer hard and then they'll go back into rotation. Until one day, after a 10 day break, I answer "good".
I think you'll need to rebuild the deck whenever you empty it. It doesn't dynamically populate from the search (at least not on my machine).
You're right, if you want to repeat all cards from today outside of the algorithm, use the search term you highlighted. I find this really useful at times and have been doing it for years - anecdotally, I don't find it has a negative effect on retention.
That's it then. Thanks!
Edit: that did the trick, opening a deck and searching for
prop:rated=-2
returned the cards from the last two days
Looking at the list, I at least partially played all except Jimmy Minor. So it's working.
@Buco, I see you're searching in all the cards. You can make a "Filtered Deck" which will display as a deck in the app with these cards, and prompt you through them just like normal study (except outside normal study).
Tools -> Create Filtered Deck
Then put the options in for the search filter, and uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck"
And you'll have a new deck which is outside the algorithm for just reviewing the recent cards.
Maybe you had already understood this. But here it is explicitly for any future readers.
Ah I see, you sort of create a sub-deck. That's pretty cool too. This time I just needed it to remind me what I worked on. But this can come in handy. Maybe you select fewer cards that you want to put extra focus on and specifically try them in a live situation. Then you create this filtered deck and ultra focus on those only. I suppose in a way that's wanted to do, I just wanted to do it on my own. Thank you 👍
If I see any of you two in person, remind me to buy you a beer. Especially @Azazzell for getting this started.
Next up for practice with Anki stuff is the book I got about a year ago. I don't buy stuff usually, this is one of the two books I got in recent years. Another one is Remi Harris Gypsy Jazz licks and I got it to support the guy since I learned so much stuff from his YT videos that I use.
It's by Tim Lerch: Melodic Jazz Chord Dictionary. It's an interesting book because he designed it with arranging chord melodies in mind. The way it's structured is it groups the chords by its basic quality (maj, min, dom...etc) but then it breaks it down by where the melody note might fall. A picture will probably explain it better
I created a deck called Tim Lerch Voicings and then the subdecks as I tackle them. And I just started with the chords with the melody in the 3rd string.
Again, once you build a deck, it takes so much work out of getting you to practice. It makes it super easy and it doesn't feel like a chore. I just breezed through the set of chords that might have melody on the 3rd string. Easy voicings but I never used this stuff. And hey sound very nice. They would work great for accompanying a singer, for ballads accompanying a soloist etc...
Thanks @buco.
I have that Tim Lerch book as well, it is a very useful way to organize chords.
What do your cards look like for that? Does the front say: Major 6, root on top on third string and the back of the card have the diagram?
Or are you running through the set as a family: front: A minor chords with 3rd on the 2nd string.
Back: 5-10 chord diagrams?
I'd like to hear a little more about how you are using this. Thanks!
This
What do your cards look like for that? Does the front say: Major 6, root on top on third string and the back of the card have the diagram?
Just like that, simple. The deck is named "Tim Lerch voicings". Then I created a subdeck "major chords, root on top, 3rd string melody". Then I'll just keep adding subdecks as I go through the book. I'll follow his own groupings of chords and make a subdeck for each, one chord/card at a time. At least that's the plan for now.
I figure if you know these positions well in major quality, then moving them into minor, dominant...etc is just a matter of moving the 3rd, 7th and so on, so the subsequent decks will be easier. Then there's putting them into actual use, that's where the real work starts...
Which I kinda started by coming up with this little thingy inspired by these initial voicings
Well, this is my update to this topic. Anki is cool, great tool. I still use it.
However I'm coming to think that acquiring and retaining the musical language that's to be used in the improvising context comes only through the brute force repetitions. I think you need to take a small piece of information and cram it in there. For an hour or longer. A single ii V I at the most. Nothing longer than that. Even that you should break down into smaller chunks and take it through the paces in various contexts.
Because what needs to happen is it needs to be accessible instantly. You don't have any time to think about it. It just needs to happen. So not only that you need to learn it, that might happen in a few minutes, not only that it needs to be fluid, that might happen in 10-20-30 minutes, it needs to be sent to the unconscious part of the brain. Sometimes you hear music educators talk about that as something negative, like they might say you always need to be aware of what you're playing and practicing. Well now I believe you need to go further past that and send it to the parts of the brain where the playing just happens without you thinking about it or being aware, if that makes sense.
Top players don't really go into the specifics regarding this. We know they work/worked extremely hard; several hours a day, every day, for several years. But there's been only a few instances where I heard someone say that they would take extremely small piece of musical information and practice it for an hour or longer.
A few years ago that was kinda unthinkable for me. Recently I did it with a few things I practiced. I felt it worked better than anything before. Something that would start as challenging, would then feel completely effortless towards the end of the hour. And it seems to stick much better. I might even have to repeat it several times. But in the end it's actually a lot faster way to retain stuff, than what I've been doing before.
Remi talks about that here
Great post, Buco. I have no experience with Anki but this stood out to me:
However I'm coming to think that acquiring and retaining the musical language that's to be used in the improvising context comes only through the brute force repetitions.
Pretty much this. I've been working on diminished runs/arpeggios for the past 1-2 years that used to be extremely difficult for me but much like any skill, consistent repetition while practicing over that timeframe has now made them accessible, if not even far easier to play and I'm starting to use them during improv simply because my brain's been "programmed" into hearing them.
I think it was Marc L. who brought up the famous Bruce Lee quote in the "I suck" thread last year...in this context, worth repeating: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times"