I said I would bow out here but I will answer a couple of things.
To the extent I overreacted, I regret that. I should have just not responded.
As I said, I was not looking for critique. Regardless, saying something is a "non-starter" is super unhelpful. You said it wouldn't work for Gypsy Jazz. You said I should just get another guitar.
This is not, to me, helpful language. Regardless of your thoughts about what I'm working on, I'm going to keep on working on it. I like the whole thing about it. So telling me a bunch of reasons why it doesn't work for you is 100% not helpful. If you meant to be helpful and didn't mean to be discouraging, I get that. It was discouraging and unhelpful. But hey, I've been discouraging and unhelpful plenty of times.
I also, as I said, have zero idea who you are. You have been talking about our communication like we have a relationship or have talked at length before. If we have, I don't remember it. I'm not trying to be snarky.
You keep saying that I deleted stuff as if it was in some effort to make you look stupid. I deleted my initial response because I didn't like what I said because I sounded like an asshole. There's an edit function to the post. I used it. I'm not trying to engage in some sort of duel. Again, the best move would have been just to ignore it. I should have done that. I routinely edit things I write to sharpen my thoughts and because I like writing as well as I can, and I will continue to do that.
You also brought up me fixing up a guitar and selling it for more than I purchased it for. I just have zero understanding of what the issue with that was. You didn't buy the guitar. I think someone in Japan bought it. I took a guitar that had been repaired very badly 2x and (hopefully) permanently fixed the neck with a repair that I thought worked really well. I have not heard otherwise. I should definitely not have paid $500 for the guitar, that was really dumb. Turning over french factory instruments has been a total loser for me and I won't be doing it anymore.
Regardless, it was strange to bring that up. I was pleased that I took a guitar that was pretty much worthless and turned it back into a musical instrument. I think it sold for $1500. Seems reasonable to me. Again, if you don't like it, or thought the price was too high, you absolutely don't have to buy it. I didn't make a ton of money off that, or, like, anything, ever.
I can say that I'm extremely conscious of my online reputation, as it's well known with luthiers that one forum post by someone can ruin a reputation. I do my best to tell people whenever I sell them anything everything I could possibly could about the guitar, warts and all, because I don't want anyone disappointed. I routinely shoot myself in the foot, and I have devalued pretty much every guitar I've made for cosmetic flaws that pretty much no one notices but I feel ok about that.
I just edited this post for spelling and grammar.
Anyway. Not too much more to say about it. I'd love to leave it at that.
Perhaps we could drop this and just enjoy magic Sam playing that guitar.
I suspect that there was something wrong with the volume pot or the way I had it grounded. I rewired it. I made a new tailpiece that should ground everything but the glue is drying.
I rigged a wire temporarily to ground the strings. I think it's a combination of that and the wiring being better but the hum is greatly reduced. I also notice that the phone increases the hum, I think there's some compression on the video because it was not nearly that loud in the room. Anyway, whether it's clear on the video it's a big improvement.
I think this is not the ideal pickup but the nice thing is it's stupid easy to try a different one. I can't get this to break up much, even at 10. And the pickup is quite high.
I got a new pickup and I think the whole buzz thing was related to the pickup I was using. This Stewmac pickup has no buzz whatsoever even when the tailpiece isn't ground. I haven't had a chance to test it much but if you're interested, it sounds really nice and it's loud AF. More of an archtop sound probably but I could definitely take this to a jazz jam and play it, which is one goal.
I could try any sort of Humbucker mount pickup in here...Lollar Charlie Christian or whatever else. I'm open to suggestions....
I don't love the archtop volume pot. It works but it's not super nice. I think in the future I'd either put one in the upper bout where the preamp on an acoustic would be or just have an on/off switch.
Sounds very nice. It was sort of darker sounding before, now there's more clarity.
I think the volume control should be a part of pickup board assembly, so the thing itself is a complete solution and once you pull it away the guitar is just an acoustic guitar. That's why I'd (just me personally, not saying you should do it) leave the guitar without any modifications whatsoever and run the pickup output into the wireless transmitter which I think is small enough to fit underneath that board no problem, and then you have the receiver at amp. That would be very cool and elegant.
I love the flexibility it gives you to try out various pickups.
The wireless thing is a good idea. I don't know how big that would be and how I could fit it into the little disk.
There's zero weight on any critical part of the soundboard so there's no effect on the sound whatsoever with what's left in the guitar so I'm not worried about that part of it.
I'll keep it in mind though. Afaik a wireless transmitter is going to end up going into a digital converter which, I dunno, seems less that awesome. I'm sure it's fine though.
Just looking through Sweetwater, they seem fairly big and would add $200ish to the price and be a lot heavier. But I'm open to suggestions.
I could put the volume control on the insert but the nice thing here is that I can have different pickups using the same pot. It's a stereo jack as well so I could potentially have a microphone hooked up too.
I also recommend you make the system removable from the guitar. That way it would be a unique product and solution. Otherwise your guitar reminded me of the Electroswing model by ALD guitars which Angelo plays here at the beginning of this video: Angelo Debarre and The "Swing" Guitarmakers (french - english subtitles)
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I said I would bow out here but I will answer a couple of things.
To the extent I overreacted, I regret that. I should have just not responded.
As I said, I was not looking for critique. Regardless, saying something is a "non-starter" is super unhelpful. You said it wouldn't work for Gypsy Jazz. You said I should just get another guitar.
This is not, to me, helpful language. Regardless of your thoughts about what I'm working on, I'm going to keep on working on it. I like the whole thing about it. So telling me a bunch of reasons why it doesn't work for you is 100% not helpful. If you meant to be helpful and didn't mean to be discouraging, I get that. It was discouraging and unhelpful. But hey, I've been discouraging and unhelpful plenty of times.
I also, as I said, have zero idea who you are. You have been talking about our communication like we have a relationship or have talked at length before. If we have, I don't remember it. I'm not trying to be snarky.
You keep saying that I deleted stuff as if it was in some effort to make you look stupid. I deleted my initial response because I didn't like what I said because I sounded like an asshole. There's an edit function to the post. I used it. I'm not trying to engage in some sort of duel. Again, the best move would have been just to ignore it. I should have done that. I routinely edit things I write to sharpen my thoughts and because I like writing as well as I can, and I will continue to do that.
You also brought up me fixing up a guitar and selling it for more than I purchased it for. I just have zero understanding of what the issue with that was. You didn't buy the guitar. I think someone in Japan bought it. I took a guitar that had been repaired very badly 2x and (hopefully) permanently fixed the neck with a repair that I thought worked really well. I have not heard otherwise. I should definitely not have paid $500 for the guitar, that was really dumb. Turning over french factory instruments has been a total loser for me and I won't be doing it anymore.
Regardless, it was strange to bring that up. I was pleased that I took a guitar that was pretty much worthless and turned it back into a musical instrument. I think it sold for $1500. Seems reasonable to me. Again, if you don't like it, or thought the price was too high, you absolutely don't have to buy it. I didn't make a ton of money off that, or, like, anything, ever.
I can say that I'm extremely conscious of my online reputation, as it's well known with luthiers that one forum post by someone can ruin a reputation. I do my best to tell people whenever I sell them anything everything I could possibly could about the guitar, warts and all, because I don't want anyone disappointed. I routinely shoot myself in the foot, and I have devalued pretty much every guitar I've made for cosmetic flaws that pretty much no one notices but I feel ok about that.
I just edited this post for spelling and grammar.
Anyway. Not too much more to say about it. I'd love to leave it at that.
Perhaps we could drop this and just enjoy magic Sam playing that guitar.
In other news, tailpiece variation #9, now with grounding.
a beer at Django in June sounds good though
I suspect that there was something wrong with the volume pot or the way I had it grounded. I rewired it. I made a new tailpiece that should ground everything but the glue is drying.
I rigged a wire temporarily to ground the strings. I think it's a combination of that and the wiring being better but the hum is greatly reduced. I also notice that the phone increases the hum, I think there's some compression on the video because it was not nearly that loud in the room. Anyway, whether it's clear on the video it's a big improvement.
I think this is not the ideal pickup but the nice thing is it's stupid easy to try a different one. I can't get this to break up much, even at 10. And the pickup is quite high.
Thought you might like this picture, I made up this rig to stretch and tension my tailpiece hangers...this is Kevlar cord at 278 pounds.
I got a new pickup and I think the whole buzz thing was related to the pickup I was using. This Stewmac pickup has no buzz whatsoever even when the tailpiece isn't ground. I haven't had a chance to test it much but if you're interested, it sounds really nice and it's loud AF. More of an archtop sound probably but I could definitely take this to a jazz jam and play it, which is one goal.
I could try any sort of Humbucker mount pickup in here...Lollar Charlie Christian or whatever else. I'm open to suggestions....
I don't love the archtop volume pot. It works but it's not super nice. I think in the future I'd either put one in the upper bout where the preamp on an acoustic would be or just have an on/off switch.
Sounds very nice. It was sort of darker sounding before, now there's more clarity.
I think the volume control should be a part of pickup board assembly, so the thing itself is a complete solution and once you pull it away the guitar is just an acoustic guitar. That's why I'd (just me personally, not saying you should do it) leave the guitar without any modifications whatsoever and run the pickup output into the wireless transmitter which I think is small enough to fit underneath that board no problem, and then you have the receiver at amp. That would be very cool and elegant.
I love the flexibility it gives you to try out various pickups.
The wireless thing is a good idea. I don't know how big that would be and how I could fit it into the little disk.
There's zero weight on any critical part of the soundboard so there's no effect on the sound whatsoever with what's left in the guitar so I'm not worried about that part of it.
I'll keep it in mind though. Afaik a wireless transmitter is going to end up going into a digital converter which, I dunno, seems less that awesome. I'm sure it's fine though.
Just looking through Sweetwater, they seem fairly big and would add $200ish to the price and be a lot heavier. But I'm open to suggestions.
I could put the volume control on the insert but the nice thing here is that I can have different pickups using the same pot. It's a stereo jack as well so I could potentially have a microphone hooked up too.
This is a headphone amp but that's roughly the size. Slightly bigger than a humbucker, I'd say it's 1/8" wider and 1/4" longer.
There are smaller and bigger than that. $200 sounds like a top end. Even the ones at $30 on Amazon get surprisingly good reviews.
I like the idea of mixing it with a mic.
I also recommend you make the system removable from the guitar. That way it would be a unique product and solution. Otherwise your guitar reminded me of the Electroswing model by ALD guitars which Angelo plays here at the beginning of this video: Angelo Debarre and The "Swing" Guitarmakers (french - english subtitles)