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  • BonesBones Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 3,333
    For the tremolo sections of Stochelo's video (at about 7 sec and 1min 25 sec into the vid) he ends on an upstroke which I can't seem to get the timing for.

    Does anyone know what speed of tremolo would allow one to end on an upstroke there? It would have to be an odd number of strums per beat I guess.

    Thanks

    Cancel that, I think it's just 16th note triplets
  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,333
    BTW, does anyone have a grille for the accompanying chords?

    thanks
  • dennisdennis Montreal, QuebecModerator
    Posts: 2,161
    here's the correct way to play it as far as the rosenberg trio version is concerned. enjoy
  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,333
    Wow, that pretty much clears up that mystery!

    Thanks D!
  • lezardlezard IrelandNew
    Posts: 53
    chip3174 wrote:
    Hey all,

    I'm trying to learn this diabolical modern piece...love it, but had a question in the B section...in the original Django recording the clarinet takes over the melody which is what I have in a published book.


    Chip

    What book is that? I'd love to take a look at the clarinet melody.
  • chip3174chip3174 New
    Posts: 135
    Hi there,

    Here is the book that I have that contains the clarinet melody. I suppose it might be workable on the guitar if you practice it a lot---but I've been working assiduously since the summer on Stochelo's take on that portion. Still nearly impossible, but then I've managed to work up other things if I practice them for years. haha

    Anyways here is the link:

    http://www.amazon.com/Django-Reinhardt- ... hardt+book

    Best,
    Chip
  • lezardlezard IrelandNew
    Posts: 53
    Thanks Chip.
    I can more or less do Stochelo's version, not up to speed by a long shot but it's the best picking exercise that I've found so far.
    I'm now curious to see how hard it is on clarinet.
    This is the only time I've ever seen it done.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PUUX9w5XMA
  • chip3174chip3174 New
    Posts: 135
    Hi lezard,

    I am using it in the same way---as a a great picking/string skipping lick.. I actually did perform it at a local wine bar with my trio, though quite a bit slower than the tempo Stochelo plays it!

    I am planning on playing this for the rest of my life and I figure that when the time is right the high speed tempo will not be impossible for me! In the meantime, I am enjoying the quirky character of this crazy tune, it's so catchy and unique.

    Clarinet seems to be an instrument where the execution of speedy figures is fairly idiomatic. I have no idea how well this lick fits on it, but I feel like it might be easier than on guitar.Perhaps it is why Stochelo recomposed it --- so it might work on guitar?
    CHip
  • therealguyfitherealguyfi Milwaukee, WINew Barault
    Posts: 49

    I have been trying to learn this song, utilizing the original recording and the Anytune app; Anytune on an iPad is a phenomenal tool for figuring out music from recordings…Despite the insane tempo Django is definitely starting each new string with a downstroke. At 40% speed you can hear that fourth note as a little delayed rhythmically due to the nature of DD picking.

    Stochelo might be even smoother than Django at very high speeds, but he had Django whereas Django had only his own ear and imagination.

    FWIW I also came up with Swing68’s “new way” to play that clarinet riff. I think you would need big hands to get the first 4 notes clean; I’m 6’4”.

    One thing that popped into my mind that I hadn’t heard discussed before: since any note played on the first string is not a rest stroke, there should be no difference in tone between starting with an upstroke and downstroke. If you start the first riff on an upstroke you play the riff avoiding any DD picking when moving from the first to second string.

    I may never get this up to tempo, but working on this sure makes playing other tunes at 210-220 feel a lot more relaxed.

  • therealguyfitherealguyfi Milwaukee, WINew Barault
    Posts: 49

    Actually my last comment is wrong, even if I start with an upstroke I still have to do a double down near the end of the lick.

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