Ringing strings behind bridge near tailpeace

Paulius Volkovas

So i just realized when i strum my Patenotte harder i get these nasty overtones from strings behind the bridge.
Is this a sign of a bad bridge or it is normal?
I tried to put a piece of paper between strings behind bridge and it sounds much cleaner now, but it looks quite ugly that way. Is there more elegant solution to cure my problem?

pickitjohn

@pauliusmm

I went to an electronics supply store. They make rubber Grommets to put in metal electrical panels to prevent the wires coming in or out from getting cut by the metal. I don't know the exact size I would take the guitar with me and find one that fits. It's just going to dampen the vibration between the bridge and the Tailpiece.

Hope it helps you

sorry the image is blurry just to give you an idea of what worked for me.

pick on

pickitjohn :peace:

Jazzaferri

I have seen some success with leather thong woven through the strings. Too much damping behind the bridge will dampen the response. Old leather bootlace works well. Try once through and if you need more you can always do a second. One has always worked for me.

Paulius Volkovas

Does this happen on good expensive guitars also?

rimm

You know those things that women use to hold their toes apart when they painting them? Well my wife's sits snugly around the tailpiece of my archtop and looks and plays great.

rimm

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pickitjohn

@rimm

Love it, maybe I'm due for an upgrade, gotta try it,Genius. :clap:

I owe you a pint.

pick on

pickitjohn :peace:

MichaelHorowitz

pauliusmm wrote: »

Does this happen on good expensive guitars also?

Select guitars known for a "dry" tone like Duponts or vintage Busatos have very little of the sympathetic overtone ringing you're experiencing with your guitar. Inexpensive Asian models tend to have an excessive amount of it, which produces the overly "wet" sound that most seek to avoid.

Russell Letson

Ringing, clashing overtones from behind the bridge and even north of the nut is, in my experience, quite common in tailpiece guitars, enough so that all my archtops and my Dunn wear a length of velcro (not the sticky-back kind) behind the bridge, and on some north of the nut as well. Michael Dunn recommended weaving a length of piano felt through the strings between tailpiece and bridge, and St. Paul luthier/repairman Marty Reynolds put a nifty damper of rosewood and felt on my Loar. And I don't hear any reduction in response on any of my guitars so altered--the only things missing are those annoying sympathetics.

Jazzaferri

Felt is definitely a good choice too.....I suspect that materials like rubber are too dense...probably some foams would be good......too dense and they start to dampen response to my ear.. My Dunn has a wetter sound than my DuPont. Fuller tone on lead but the DuPont is so great on rhythm.

Joli Gadjo

Don't Patenottes usually have a piece of cork underneath the bridge to avoid this?