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Topsy - B section chord question.

HotTinRoofHotTinRoof Florida✭✭✭
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B section of Topsy. Terrific tune. Very very close to Stray Cat Strut.

|Fm C7/G | Fm/Ab C7/G | Fm % | Fm G7|

I'm playing it like this at the moment (see attachment) however I think I hear Django playing the F->G->Ab->G melody on a higher string? How are you guys playing this?
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  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,323
    Gotta run but FM/Ab is very similar to the other thread that you posted. Ab on the 4th fret. More later...
  • wimwim ChicagoModerator Barault #503 replica
    Posts: 1,501
    For rhythm? I usually simplify it to just

    | F- | F#7 | F- | G7 |

    gets out of the way of the soloist this way
  • BonesBones Moderator
    edited August 2015 Posts: 3,323
    Here is maybe a better grille for the B part:

    http://djangopedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Topsy

    So you could just do the Stray Cat riff twice over the B part but in Fm.
  • Posts: 5,028
    You could, which is what I think @Bones was getting at, do
    1x01 | 3x23 | 4x35 | 3x23
    or that first Fm could be
    133133
    T22134 (thumb, middle finger bar, index, ring, pinky) if you're comfortable with this chord grip
    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • HotTinRoofHotTinRoof Florida✭✭✭
    Posts: 308
    Bones brings up interesting thought. I naturally jumped on the A section exactly like Stray Cat Strut and working my way down the neck with the roots on low E. Are you guys down closer to 1 position? - Cm and Bb on A string.

    Wim I imagine you are in first position for this?

    Think I may be playing quite a few too many songs too high up the neck. ha
    Wim Glenn wrote: »
    For rhythm? I usually simplify it to just

    | F- | F#7 | F- | G7 |

    gets out of the way of the soloist this way

  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,323
    Remember that technically the bass player (if you had one) would probably cover the bass walk down for you. So you are really just comping:

    Cm///Ab7/G7/ (equals 2 measures)

    Or-

    Cm/Cm7/Ab7G7

    If I wanted to double the bass line or no bass player I would probably play the SCS riff in Cm like this:

    Cm = 8101088x
    Cm7 = 810888x
    Ab7 = x1110119x
    G7 = x109108x

    Again, if you have a bass handling the walk-down line and it is up tempo I would never work that hard with my left hand. Just play Cm Ab7 G7(b9) in a position that is comfortable, clean and stays out of the way of the soloist. I tend to try to not be too busy on rhythm because it wears me out on a long gig and muddies up the sound too much IMO.

    Same with the B part, just Fm Db7 C7(b9). I'd play that like this:

    Fm = 4x35xx

    Db7 = 4x34xx

    C7 = 3x23xx

    Probably a better progression for the B part is:

    Fm///Db7/C7/Fm/C7/Fm///

    Since if you repeat the Db7 to C7 you are ending on a C7 which technically doesn't really lead back to the Cm in the A part but it is a minor point (pun not intended!)
  • HotTinRoofHotTinRoof Florida✭✭✭
    Posts: 308
    Terrific info Bones, thank you. Will give these variations a try tonight.
  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,323
    Hey HTR, I've never seen a grille or lead sheet for this tune so for chords I would just go with what seems to fit the melody and the inversions that have good voice leading (I guess the people with theory knowledge call it?) and stay out of the way of the soloist. As long as all the band mates are 'on the same page' as far as the chord changes go.
  • HotTinRoofHotTinRoof Florida✭✭✭
    Posts: 308
    Here you go Bones. Thank you for the help my friend.
  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,323
    Hey thanks for this and B&W chart! Two that I don't have.
    HotTinRoof
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