Virtual Gypsy Guitar

Scoredog

Somebody knows someone here who is involved with this...and it ain't me...

http://vi-control.net/community/threads/impact-soundworks-presents-a-gypsy-jazz-performance.55864/

Since most people here don't do a bunch of TV work it probably does not affect them. The solo at the end of the video was probably copped by the keyboard player after the guy they sampled played in the solo...just too idiomatic to the genre for a keyboard player to know this stuff. I can think listening to the solo we might be able to figure out who they sampled and I have my suspects. One thing is the rhythm stuff sounds great and could be used if one was not a good rhythm player.

1.So the bad-a keyboard player replaces a guitarist though I doubt w/o a lot of research he can improv in the idiomatic language.
2.The good-it makes people more aware of the genre.

All the sampled libraries for orchestra did among many things these 2 items.
1. A lot of orchestras got replaced by one guy like myself in a room.
2. A bunch of Epic music was created by a guys in a room with samples and a bunch of listeners who would have never listened to orchestras started going to concerts though often Gamed themed concerts but still...its orchestral music played by real orchestras.

andrewhannum

This is pretty awesome. When I was putting together the Djangobot samples I needed something exactly like this, but I ended up having to settle for a generic "jazz guitar" sound that doesn't really do it justice. I wonder how the same pieces would sound through this.

BTW -- According to their forum posts, the artist they sampled was Vasilis Kotsias, the same guy playing in the video.

I'll definitely check this out if it's not too expensive.

Buco

Craig, can you explain which part is a virtual instrument in that video? I'm a little slow here. The text in the video made it sound like the music during the live shot of a guy playing the chord solo stuff is actually a virtual music. But it sounded so good and real that I got totally confused as to what's going on.

Scoredog

None of it is real...it's all virtual...
They first sampled the guy recording a lot of articulations (staccs, long notes etc)
Shot a real video of him playing...then learned his playing on the keyboard with the samples, and then replaced the original audio with the keyboard performance. Lot's of sampled solo libraries use this technique. Actual execution of creating from the keyboard can take a long time to get it right and you can hear things that are just not right but in general few people can tell the difference.

Buco

Wow!!! You would really have to be microscopic to hear the difference and only after knowing the facts.

P.S What threw me off the most is the room sound. But then everything else too; the dynamics, the fret noise... Amazing, didn't have a clue such a thing existed.

Scoredog

good chance the samples were recorded in that room...and there may be a room mic and a close mic in the library.

wim

The first part sounds crap to me, but the second part (0:35-end) is sounding pretty good. Is that synthetic too?

Reminds me of something @emmet ray (or @Emmett Ray or @EmmettRay ...) showed recently with using band in a box. You could generate a solo over a sheet of changes in Jorgenson style or Gonzalo style. The soundbank literally used licks from those players, so it did actually sound in their style. The generated solos sounded decent, although some continuity and "bigger picture" was missing

Scoredog

all virtual..., on some notes I can hear the sample, usually on faster parts. The initial lick on the 2nd part is scary right, maybe there are phrases (possibly using time machine in Kontakt to sync to tempo) in the lib too, will know tomorrow.

Just for clarification synthetic refers to synths, these are created with samples (multiple bits recorded of a persons playing mapped to a keyboard which triggers the sounds).