If you look at the thread Win posted there are pictures to help to, but this technique generally has the pick flatter to the string instead of the the diagonal angle that you would use in other styles, which is what you seem to be doing in the first picture
I'm just getting back into this style after years of playing only electric jazz, and the downward slant and flat angle have been the two biggest things I've needed to work on, but I can hear the difference instantly.
Seems to me angled is what Stochelo is doing:
it's whatever works for individual though, whenever you hear "this is the way x should be done" there is somebody of the high caliber that's doing the opposite. Whenever I hear "you should try using very small finger movements when playing fast, economy of motion" and what not, Pat Martino comes to mind as his fingers are bouncing off the fretboard between the notes.
I couldn't find a video with a clear shot but Tchavolo might be a player with a flat-er pick position.
Hey Buco, didn't mean it to come across as "it needs to be done x way", it's pretty obvious there are many ways to skin a cat. I see lots of forward pickslanting in the Stochelo vid, but I don't see as much angle as you would commonly see with a player in modern styles. I was lead to believe by some reputable online resources and my own observationthat the flatter pick attack allows for more volume as more pick goes through the string. As you angle more you get more bite but there is less pick moving through the string which can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on what you're looking for. It's all generalities though!
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Could you perhaps post a picture of an alternative way to hold the pick?
I'm just getting back into this style after years of playing only electric jazz, and the downward slant and flat angle have been the two biggest things I've needed to work on, but I can hear the difference instantly.
it's whatever works for individual though, whenever you hear "this is the way x should be done" there is somebody of the high caliber that's doing the opposite. Whenever I hear "you should try using very small finger movements when playing fast, economy of motion" and what not, Pat Martino comes to mind as his fingers are bouncing off the fretboard between the notes.
I couldn't find a video with a clear shot but Tchavolo might be a player with a flat-er pick position.
You can definitely see a downward pick slant, though, and a loosey goosey wrist...