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  • richter4208richter4208 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 Posts: 536


  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    Posts: 6,179

    For those of you who have the Gypsy Picking book, check out Picking Pattern 5. Django is doing a variation of that in this recording.

    There are several other variations of this pattern in the Picking book and a few more in the Gypsy Fire book as well.

    It's a great lick and Django used it in many situations!

    BillDaCostaWilliamsbillyshakes
  • BillDaCostaWilliamsBillDaCostaWilliams Barreiro, Portugal✭✭✭ Altamira M01F, Huttl, 8 mandolins
    Posts: 654


    Thanks for pointing us to the Cruickshank book. I've dug out my battered old copy and attached the page with the "If you ever see a duck" example.

    Ian, of course, used his own idiosyncratic scheme for representing the notes on the fretboard .

    I still find it hard to integrate the concept when soloing on up-tempo tunes but have now been able to record myself including it successfully in slower tunes like Tears.

    billyshakesvanmalmsteen
  • vanmalmsteenvanmalmsteen Diamond Springs ,CANew Latch Drom F, Eastman DM2v, Altamira m30d , Altimira Mod M
    edited May 2020 Posts: 337

    Awesome, yessss

    it reminded me about that whole thing and I started messing with it again as well. One of these days I will make “ If you ever see a duck“ flow like water

    that was one of my first ‘Gypsy Jazz’ books. I love the pictures in there as well as the simple presentation, it’s super old-school

    BillDaCostaWilliams
  • wimwim ChicagoModerator Barault #503 replica
    edited May 2020 Posts: 1,487

    I heard the device many times again today in Django's version of Just One Of Those Things, firstly at around 1:22

    https://youtu.be/OxS0ZBKgsLg?t=82

    Just a moment later at 1:32, the same idea but in a different key

    https://youtu.be/OxS0ZBKgsLg?t=92

    First one again at around 1:48

    https://youtu.be/OxS0ZBKgsLg?t=108

    Then he uses it again a fourth time (!) towards the end of the tune, at around 2:42

    https://youtu.be/OxS0ZBKgsLg?t=160

    I guess this is a reliable "turnaround lick" in Django's brain, because he puts it in the same place these 3 times (i.e. in the turnaround of F). That second arpeggio (Django plays B D Ab B, D) is from the Fdim7, the diminished seventh chord with the key center note in it, an idea that Duved Dunayevsky talks about a lot and mentioned in his online courses for example as a classic Django sound. This gives another way to think about that sound, i.e. functioning as secondary dominant (V/V), given the chord over which Django's placing it.

    BucovanmalmsteenBillDaCostaWilliamsPetrovbillyshakes
  • wimwim ChicagoModerator Barault #503 replica
    edited May 2020 Posts: 1,487

    Hah, there's a big one in After You've Gone, starting at about 1:33 (8 arpeggios!)

    https://youtu.be/-rAz7nnnHqo?t=93

    https://www.soundslice.com/slices/HT6Vc/

    vanmalmsteenmac63000billyshakesBucoBillDaCostaWilliams
  • vanmalmsteenvanmalmsteen Diamond Springs ,CANew Latch Drom F, Eastman DM2v, Altamira m30d , Altimira Mod M
    edited May 2020 Posts: 337

    I’ve got that solo transcribed in standard notation in the Stan Ayeroff book! Gonna have to work it out. That is awesome

  • billyshakesbillyshakes NoVA✭✭✭ Park Avance - Dupont Nomade - Dupont DM-50E
    Posts: 1,403

    Cool slice, Wim. Thanks. Interesting on the tuning used (EADGCF). I've only heard the tales of Joseph tuning his guitar for him. Did Django use alternate tunings like that on other recordings that you've transcribed? Is it something you discerned by hearing the pitch of an open string?

  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 3,323

    Wow thanks Wim! Are you sure he was using that tuning there? Interesting.

  • wimwim ChicagoModerator Barault #503 replica
    edited May 2020 Posts: 1,487

    Oh Django certainly does not use that tuning (proof). I advise to use the notation, not the tab..

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