Minor Swing 1937

stubla

dennis wrote:

if you really want to know what they said about me...

they have never seen anyone eat like me... when my friend in france went to see them, they talked about my eating .... yes i eat a lot... it's my vice, but i work out very regularly so it sort of evens out for now

Dennis
i eat like a horse(with a caravan attached) AND don't work out!
Jeez--i'm turning into Hono.....!
Its funny though--in my experience a decent size gut is a positive sign of health and manliness amongst the gypsies i mix with...:-)
Matcho brandished his sizeable gut with real pride.....
Cheers
Stu


PS-...now wheres that steak i was eating?.....

Carter O`Brien

I think the change in timbre may have been minimized by playing the whole run close to the bridge - if anything I'd say the tone of the beginning notes are on the high/ nasal side of the spectrum.

zav

Fair enough -if you can play it like that
But i think its alien to everything i've seen in this style

Stubla, for me there is two different questions - first one - hystorical, how DID Django play, and another one - practical, how it's possible to play by somebody now. So, i've started do discuss topic question from "historical point of view", ok? :-)

I've listened the run several times yesterday, yes, now I hear several (about 3) string changes, but i still think, that it started on the 3d string. ;-)

Thanks for discussion,
Anton

mmaslan

Two more questions for Dennis and other experienced players:

In his video, Mandino begins the first pull-off in the solo with an upstroke. Is it standard to start a pull-off this way? It does sound good.

I'm guessing that players use all downstrokes when playing octaves, because I tried alternatives for the octaves in Minor Swing and it was a disaster. Am I right?

Thanks!

MichaelHorowitz

I don't have the Mandino vid, but an upstroke will work in that situation as long it's a powerful one. Really clear the string and follow through to get a big sound. Wimpy upstrokes won't cut it.

Octaves are often played with a slight upstroke in-between beats. It's similar to the "grace" upstroke used in la pompe. It gives the octaves a nice rhythmic sound.

-Michael

dennis

if u mean the very first pull off that occurs in the song, i personally start it with an up as it occurs between beats... in such cases, both downs and ups will work.

in short, anything that starts on an upbeat can be attacked with either down or up depending on how you want to accent certain notes...

zav

stubla wrote:

[quote]--3--2--1--0-----
---4--3--2--1--0---
--3--2--1--0-------
---4--3--2--1--0----
---4
pick direction as follows:(a very logical symmetrical pattern i think)

1st string dudd
2nd string dudud
3rd string dudd
4th string dudud
5th string d etc [/quote]

Ha, after time's passed I decide to try the passage again, and I came to a new version that turned to be very close to Stu's one (at the begining), all accents are also very close to what I hear on Django's recording:
------------------
--8--7--6--5-----
--8--7--6--5--4---
--8--7--6--5--4-----
--8--7--6--5--4----
--------------------
2nd string dudd
3rd string dudud
4th string dudud
5th string dudud

- so it's a "common" run for left hand but with the right hand specifics...

Cheers!
Anton

zav

well, one correction of right hand motion - on the 4th string

2nd string dudd
3rd string dudud
4th string duddu
5th string dudud

of course, variant of stubla is better because of symmetry...



Anton

BluesBop Harry

Ok, another question, How do you finger the chromatic run? Do you slide your index? or do you use one finger per fret?
Thanks

emicad

[quote="Carter O`Brien"][quote]|----------------3-2-1----0--------|
|-----------------------------4-3---|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------| [/quote]

When Mandino Reinhardt shows this lick in his note-for-note video, he plays the 4th note, the E, on the B string.

So it becomes

|----------------3-2-1-------------|
|---------------------------5-4-3---|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|

He does show this run with alternate picking, given the speed of the run that one change might help it fall into place for you-

Carter[/quote]
Right man... , good idea