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Arm position (w/picture)

Matthias LenzMatthias Lenz Lucklum, GermanyNew
edited August 2008 in Gypsy Picking Posts: 101
Hi there,

please have a look at the picture below. I´d like your opinions or some advice considering the two arm positions.

As you can see, my 00-sized acoustic is pretty small, and somehow finding the "right" position seems a bit difficult. I found out I can play in both positions, but with the following specific differences :

To the left :

Advantage : Biceps is resting on guitar and the arm feels really relaxed, good mobility and a lot of "punch" for the rest-strokes.
Disadvantage : The small body of the guitar forces me to lift the arm up quite a bit, and despite the good "punch", I feel I don´t really get an ideal pick angle. I find "La Pompe" harder to control in this position.

I prefer this position for practicing the picking patterns.

To the right :

Advantage : I don´t have to lift the arm up so much and I reach the sweet spot better and get a better pick angle. Still the arm feels relaxed (a very little bit less then the other position). I find "La Pompe" a lot easier to play in this position. Also the hand position looks more like "the real deal" when comparing it to the videos I watched in the archive section.
Disadvantage : Somehow there´s little less punch and mobility for playing single note lines, arpeggios etc., even though it´s all done from the wrist.


I think I´ll feel a lot better overall with the first position, once I get my hands on a selmserstyle guitar with a bigger body. All the guys I watched were rather resting their biceps on the guitar, but on my small box this somehow doesn´t do it properly. What do you think ? Is it okay to compensate with the second position ? Like I said, for rhythm playing it feels a lot better to me...

Looking forward to your comments on this...

Best wishes,

Matthias

Comments

  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    Posts: 6,179
    Hi Mathias,

    It definitely takes some adjustments when using a smaller guitar. The guitar that's in the Gypsy Picking book was actually pretty small and I had a similar problem.

    In the photos below I think the one on the right looks much better...but it's hard to say without seeing you in action.

    You might try "choking up" a little so your forearm is resting on the bout of the guitar (instead of the elbow.) That's why I did, and it helps get the hand in the correct "hanging position" over the strings.

    good luck!

    -Michael
  • aa New York City✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 800
    the viewers right? the one on the viewers left looks more like it, no? in that picure, his arm is resting on the lower bout, more like django..
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  • Matthias LenzMatthias Lenz Lucklum, GermanyNew
    Posts: 101
    You might try "choking up" a little so your forearm is resting on the bout of the guitar (instead of the elbow.) That's why I did, and it helps get the hand in the correct "hanging position" over the strings.

    That´s exactly what I do in the picture to the right. :) thanks for your advice, Michael !

    Apart from this topic, it already feels quite natural to work with the rest-stroke technique, bent wrist and all that. Playing plectrum-style guitar has become more enjoyable than ever before, and it turns out to be a great asset to my life as a working musician.

    Thanks again, man :wink:
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