Great! Thanks to all for working with me on this. I will practice it...it didnt sound quite right to me as I can't get the lick down within 3 seconds flat like Jimmy...something to strive for though.
Troy and Dennis have the same lick idea here. Ritary uses it all over the place, and others make frequent use of it too. I think it's used enough to be called a cliche, in the good sense, of course. It's actually not hard to play at speed, though Troy's fingering is a little awkward at first glance. A nice variation appears in Andreas version of Coquette. He replaces some of the pulls with chromaticism. He does it on the second ii-V of the tune, in measure 5, (not including the intro) before he even finishes stating the melody! Those be-bop guys... Anyway, that particular variation has a nice triplet lead-in starting on beat 3 of measure 4. I have a way of cheating on the lead-in part. The phrase is 4 ascending chromatic notes in tripllet time. Gypsy style would have it played DUDD. I play it as DHUD, with "H" for hammer-on. This way you can still get the empphasis on the last note.
Troy and Dennis have the same lick idea here. Ritary uses it all over the place, and others make frequent use of it too. I think it's used enough to be called a cliche, in the good sense, of course. It's actually not hard to play at speed, though Troy's fingering is a little awkward at first glance. A nice variation appears in Andreas version of Coquette. He replaces some of the pulls with chromaticism. He does it on the second ii-V of the tune, in measure 5, (not including the intro) before he even finishes stating the melody! Those be-bop guys... Anyway, that particular variation has a nice triplet lead-in starting on beat 3 of measure 4. I have a way of cheating on the lead-in part. The phrase is 4 ascending chromatic notes in tripllet time. Gypsy style would have it played DUDD. I play it as DHUD, with "H" for hammer-on. This way you can still get the empphasis on the last note.
I have a way of cheating on the lead-in part. The phrase is 4 ascending chromatic notes in tripllet time. Gypsy style would have it played DUDD. I play it as DHUD, with "H" for hammer-on. This way you can still get the empphasis on the last note.
Mike
that's not cheating as that's how most gypsies will play it too... what i teach my students to do for every lick/pattern i show them is to find
1: variations, there are so many variations on that lick, stochelo goes through a few on There Will Never Be Another You of the seresta album
2: ways to lead in and out
3: breaking it down to smaller chunks so you don't have to play the entire lick
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Phil
Is that the lick you're talking about? Jimmy plays 2 variations of it at the end of the first 2 sections of his 1st solo. This is the second one:
C7/F7/Bb6
e-15-17-18-15------------------------------------------------------------
b---------------16-------------------15--------------------------------
g------------------17-15h17p15-14---17-14------------------
d-----------------------------------------------15---13-12h13p12---------
a--------------------------------------------------------------------15-12-13-
e-----------------------------------------------------------------
e----------------------17-15
b---------------15-18----
g--------14-15-----------
d-12-15-------------------
a---------------------
e----------------------
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You're right Dennis. I didn't spend much time thinking about it. 2 minute transcription.
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Mike
that's not cheating as that's how most gypsies will play it too... what i teach my students to do for every lick/pattern i show them is to find
1: variations, there are so many variations on that lick, stochelo goes through a few on There Will Never Be Another You of the seresta album
2: ways to lead in and out
3: breaking it down to smaller chunks so you don't have to play the entire lick
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Great forum !
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