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Solfege systems

JonJon melbourne, australiaProdigy Dupont MD50B, '79 Favino
edited October 2011 in Gypsy Jazz 101 Posts: 391
Hi,

I've decided to start using Solfege when I learn tunes. I already learn them mostly in Roman numeral form, so they can be transposed easily, but have noticed that all the old French sheet music is in Solfege, and that people do actually use these naming conventions when teaching a song etc. I think attention to even seemingly superficial details of how the music is and was played in France is important if you're after a really authentic sound, so I'm going to do it.

So, the question is - in terms of professional gypsy jazz practice, is fixed, or movable Do the current standard? I want the answer to be moveable DO, because it facilitates transposition, which makes sense, but if it's fixed, I'll do it that way.

Bear in mind, I'm not interested in what is easier, or what makes more sense, but what is actually used by the masters.

Thanks,

Jon

Comments

  • kevingcoxkevingcox Nova Scotia✭✭✭✭ Dupont MD50
    Posts: 298
    I know that in the French tradition "Do" is the name of the note C, and that doesn't change ("Re" is D, "Mi" is E, etc.)
  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    Posts: 6,179
    Movable Do is the standard in North America. In Europe they generally use fixed Do. At least that was the situation last I looked...
  • steven_eiresteven_eire Wicklow✭✭✭✭ Dupont MD50
    Posts: 172
    In Romane's instructonal video he sings as he plays the scales. When he begins in G he will start by singing "Sol, Fa, La, Si" etc.
  • JonJon melbourne, australiaProdigy Dupont MD50B, '79 Favino
    Posts: 391
    In Romane's instructonal video he sings as he plays the scales. When he begins in G he will start by singing "Sol, Fa, La, Si" etc.

    Excellent, that's what I wanted to know. Thanks guys!

    Jon
  • Fixed do is the standard almost everywhere except us england and down under. Even in usa some music schools prefer fixed do.

    In Europe Do is C re is D etc. I have a version of si tu savais that uses both key names in english and some of them are still in solfege.
    The Magic really starts to happen when you can play it with your eyes closed
  • kevingcoxkevingcox Nova Scotia✭✭✭✭ Dupont MD50
    Posts: 298
    I used to have to ask my French girlfriend if the chord was "Si" or "C", it got very confusing.
  • Joli GadjoJoli Gadjo Cardiff, UK✭✭✭✭ Derecho, Bumgarner - VSOP, AJL
    Posts: 542
    Fun fact, last time we played with a sheet that had the chords written in French, when I got to the Do my brain did not process it in French and I played D Diminished instead of C !!
    - JG
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