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I'm really interested and looking forward to seeing what new material are we getting. And I'm curious that you wanted a larger pool of non pros or semi pros since I'm sure you could've just as easily gotten a handful of European pros to give you a feedback. I'm also sure everyone who'll be getting one will share their opinions (I'll have to make sure not to read any before I form my thoughts), it'll be interesting to hear how it feels/sounds to people that were previous Wegen users.
That is a nice question. For testing, I get much more and better feedback from serious non or semi pros, then professional players. These guys are busy touring, studio work, interviews and what all. Besides that, I can imagine they have companies sending their stuff for getting some promotional value with using their name. Also, they have MaNAGeRs!
Non, or semi pros have usually more time to sit in their own home, and are much more relaxed, and are far more easy and fun to talk with.
This project has taken some months, and I would be plain silly to get this out on this forum, without the testing results from just a few serious guys in Europe.
To be continued...
The picks have arrived !!! Thank You @Wegen101 !
I just got them in the mail, and only had about an hour and a half to play them. (I hopefully will try to do a video playthrough/review as soon as I get a chance).
As a prefix, the only picks I play with are the Wegan Twin 3.5 and Fatone 5.0 (black) so the feel of these is very familiar.
My first impression, mainly playing with the Twin. The material feels softer than the two I mentioned above. The black ones are like a rock, this one almost feels almost like a contour pillow when I grip it. A very hard contour pillow LOL but feels like it 'molds' with the fingers. The 'wear' is probably hard to see on the black, this one, as pictured, dug in almost instantaneously. The tone feels about the same as the black 3.5 twin, which always cuts through. This one, although still loud and punchy, I feel is slightly smoother.
Guess I wanted to be the first LOL, so those are just some very quick impressions. Will follow up as I put more hours in.
Thanks Again @Wegen101 !
Many thanks for the pick Michel!
I will start off by saying my pick grip is probably fairly unorthodox and similar to Jimmy Rosenberg's, with my other fingers outstretched and my little finger (pinky for those in the US!) in contact with the soundboard or the high E string if I'm playing on the low strings. I've always played like this, and I feel I'm just too set in my way now to do anything about it!! I do think I can get plenty of nuance and dynamics with this hand/finger position, but I'm slightly embarrassed to be seen to be playing like this when nearly everyone else is holding the pick correctly/in a traditional way.
I have used almost exclusively Dugain picks for the past fifteen or more years, with the occasional dabble with John Pearse picks. The Dugain picks I like best are acetate and tend to be between 3 and 4mm thick. They have deep incuts on both sides for finger and thumb, so that the part that you actually pinch is quite thin and my grip is forced up against the sides of the incuts which is what keeps it in the same position. This is the first time I've tried a Wegen pick. Although there is an incut where the thumb goes, there's not really one on the other side as the ribs are flat and level with the top, and I find I have less grip overall. I'm also guessing that the ribs mean there's less surface area for the finger/thumb contact, so although the ribs could mean better grip for some, for me I find I have less, and my pinch doesn't have a 'stop' like the Dugain picks.
I've certainly got used to my Dugain picks and their deep incuts. I like the very smooth shiny grey material of the new Wegen pick - it's very smooth and fast over the strings. It's just the incut on the index finger side isn't useable for me. Should I try sanding the ribs away to make an incut on that side? Yes! I'll give it a go if that's allowed.
Before I do that, I will be passing my pick onto another gypsy jazz player this week and it will be interesting to hear his thoughts. I shall report back! In the meantime I will keep playing with it and thinking about its design.
Finally, there's something a bit cheap about seeing the lines in resin from a 3D printer. Is that just me?
Cheers, Jamie
I was wondering if these were at least partially 3d printed. I have a background in plastics and some decent familiarity with 3d printing. I’m excited about the possibilities, but a lot of the most used filaments have a low melting point and seem like they would wear down quickly. I have a sample in the mail from Michel, and I’m very interested to try it out!
@Wegen101 Are you able to share whether there will be a different price point for this material? I know some people love Blue Chip picks ($30-75) and others have gone for the Dunlop Primetone ($5-10). For those that choose the Dunlop, it is a near similar pick and a much reduced price point. So price, while not affecting playability and tone characteristics, might come in play. If I'm evaluating against the standard Wegen picks I'd want to know if these are intended to be similar price or otherwise.
Received my envelope today but package was torn and empty - no picks!
Somebody in Customs and Immigration plays Django's music. ha ha
I got my pick today (on the left). I currently have 2 regular white Wegen picks, and I have been using them exclusively for about 15 months. One of these is probably 5 years old, and the other one about 1-2 years old I didn’t notice until now that the thumb grip is different on the 2 white picks. The intention is slightly bigger on one. Out of the 2 white picks, one is very slightly brighter than the other. The new grey pick is very similar in sound and feel to the old white ones. The tone to me is very slightly brighter, which is a good thing on my guitar, but it’s an almost imperceptible difference. The only real difference to me is on the thumb indentation of the grey pick, the ridges are smaller and not as sharp. For me I don’t think that affects the grip or playability, but I’ll have to spend some more time with it to know for sure. The other big variable for me is the wear, so I’ll use this a bunch and see how well it holds up. At first glance it seems very comparable to the original Wegen pick
Are these test picks 3D printed? Yes, they are.
Here is the story: I have seen many bad Wegenpicks imitations in the past 20 years.I bought my first 3D printer in 2016, and one reason was to find out if you can make serious guitar picks with these. The answer was no, at that time. My first 3D printer was a DIY nightmare, and the available materials were just a few. Later on, I bought several more 3D printers, and I use these mainly for making my own things.
Meanwhile, 3D printers are getting better and better. It is just a matter of time before some guy thinks it's a nice idea to make 3D copy boutique picks, like mine.
Well, if anybody should be making 3D Wegenpicks, it should be me. In December 2024, I bought a high-end 3D printer. I learned how to operate this bad boy, then I made digital designs of some of my standard pick models, and went on making test picks using different materials. All without any help from anyone, and I am just the same person who makes the standard Wegenpicks.
The test picks I have sent out are made from one of the best materials I could find so far. But, it is a jungle out there.