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  • Bob HoloBob Holo Moderator
    Posts: 1,252
    Elliot wrote:
    Scot,


    People want to be involved with what is happening today, and DR will always sound old to them, just like Louis Armstrong's Hot Five who despite all he accomplished remains fairly unlistenable by today's ears.


    Elliott - Interesting to hear that perspective because I often have the opposite issue. Later on you said Louis is largely unlistenable to "modern ears" because the music is too slow. Is it that you think they're too slow - or is it that you regret that "modern ears" won't gravitate toward slow songs? I often find myself trying to spread the message that there's enough grist in this music to slow down and feel it in your bones instead of skipping over the top of it too fast. The other day I was in a jam and called Je Suis Seul Ce Soir and the response I got was: "we don't know that tune" ... OK, no problem... But then the mandolin player said: "Oh - wait a second - you mean "Out of Nowhere" ... it's the same song - let's play it - and he started in on it with a couple riffin chords and we proceedeed to beat the hell out of Je Suis Seul Ce Soir at 200 BPM ... all the while Django spun in his grave and I could not get the Monty Python-esque mental image out of my mind of a small dog humping someone's leg... because that's what we were doing to the song.

    I do like fast songs... Appel Direct, Sweet Georgia Brown etc... sound really good fast. But other songs need to breathe. They're no good unless you dig in at a stately pace and bring them to life. It's hard work to play a song slow and make it swing - but the results are worth it - the tension you get from swinging slowly dissapears at fast speeds - and takes a lot of the emotion with it. Songs like Viper's Dream, Blues for Ike, Ou Es Tu Mon Amor & I Wonder Where my Baby is Tonight just shrivel when you play them too fast. If you have the album "Memories" from Angelo DeBarre & Tchavolo Schmitt - listen to Je Seul Ce Soir and you'll know what's on my mind.

    Or, listen to Hot 5s /Hot7s play Potato Head Blues slowly. There's powerful music to be made at slower tempos :)http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/Louie/Hot7/potato.ram
    You get one chance to enjoy this day, but if you're doing it right, that's enough.
  • ElliotElliot Madison, WisconsinNew
    edited September 2006 Posts: 551
    Hi Bob -

    I was pretty much reflecting on today's tastes in music, although to me much of Hot 5 does sound let's say, funereal, and I've heard similar comments from several jazz musicians who I suppose should know better. I used to have the lp version of Exodus by Bob Marley, which has the introduction to Natural Mystic slowly creeping up in volume for a good minute or so until you're entirely enveloped, only to find it totally truncated on the cd, quite a shame. I enjoy as well the Pascal Roge cd of Debussy's piano works on which, talk about space, there are parts you'd almost think the guy died on the piano bench! I also took Celtic Harp lessons - the music has a beautiful, stately, processional feeling to it that modulates imperceptibly between major and minor and I couldn't play it slow enough. When I finally bought some cds of highly accomplished Irish players and heard their versions I couldn't believe how fast they were ripping through them. I don't think there is any way to confirm the original tempo from when the music was written hundreds of years ago, and when I presented my concern to my teacher she basically said that as a Troubadour type of music, it is really up to the individual player, so I've kept my interpretations. Believe me, I'm with you!

    Now if I could integrate the harp with Gypsy Jazz, I think that would be pretty cool. No pedals, but levers on C and F, so at least I can play in G and E minor!

    Elliot :)
  • aa New York City✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 800
    Bill and Ted go back to the thirties and bring Django back to 2006. when he gets lost, they know where to find him:

    "Guitar center!!"
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  • AJATangoAJATango New
    Posts: 110
    Ok don't think Django put that aside. think the trend in movies as of late are period flicks. 1900 to 1940s. i could name 20 films easily. The fact is nostalgia of that period is hot now. Now add WWII in tot he mix whihc is always a hot topic. nazi occupied france now that's not a topic that has been done too much. Now put Django and similar peirod style sof music intt he mix growing in populariy as wella s wing dancing. Now add the fact that eet and Lowdown did ok for a Woody Allen pic. i think with Depp's name it could do well. It would be in the vein of Head in the clouds, Cinderella Man, etc. Depp would have to chunk up a bit but, he could do it with class. The real quesiton is who plays Stephane? Maybe Orlando Bloom? Hey it could happen.
  • aa New York City✭✭✭✭
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    for oscar aleman- chris tucker.
    stephane grapelli- K.D. Lang
    will pharell for joseph
    baro ferret- russel crowe.
    beyonce as josephine baker
    goldie hawn- whore #1
    mark walberg - nazi soldier #4
    charles s dutton - louis armstrong
    matelo ferret- elijah wood
    bricktop- queen latifah
    arnold shwarznegger- GI commander
    bette middler- naguine
    matthew modine - glen miller
    nicole kidman - whore #7
    paul giamatti - voice of django's animated pet niglo
    james gandolfini- mario maccaferri
    django's father- re-animated footage of yul brynner
    cameo of wynton marsalis as duke ellington

    james horner - gypsy-jazz-esque soundtrack.

    directed by jerry bruckheimer
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  • ElliotElliot Madison, WisconsinNew
    Posts: 551
    Ray Liotta should be in there simply because he is the greatest smoker since Bogey.

    Mike Myers for Django, Dana Carvey for Grapelli.

    ("Yes - One day you WILL BE MINE!" - Young Django looking in the Selmer window.)
  • aa New York City✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 800
    ray liotta- tino rossi
    sean penn- eddie lang
    patrick stewart - british cabbie #3
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  • Teddy DupontTeddy Dupont Deity
    Posts: 1,271
    a wrote:
    for oscar aleman- chris tucker.
    stephane grapelli- K.D. Lang
    will pharell for joseph
    baro ferret- russel crowe.
    beyonce as josephine baker
    goldie hawn- whore #1
    mark walberg - nazi soldier #4
    charles s dutton - louis armstrong
    matelo ferret- elijah wood
    bricktop- queen latifah
    arnold shwarznegger- GI commander
    bette middler- naguine
    matthew modine - glen miller
    nicole kidman - whore #7
    paul giamatti - voice of django's animated pet niglo
    james gandolfini- mario maccaferri
    django's father- re-animated footage of yul brynner
    cameo of wynton marsalis as duke ellington

    james horner - gypsy-jazz-esque soundtrack.

    directed by jerry bruckheimer
    Details of Whores 2 to 6 please.
  • aa New York City✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 800
    ok, so here's all the rest of the whores:

    #2 Scarlett johanson - rich american heiress visting france decides to go slumming.

    #3 cgi-re-animated footage of cass elliot as a cabaret singer/whore. django's favorite. the movie will win a special effects oscar for what will become the most infamous sex scene in film history. so infamous that it sparks a political upheaval in the united states.

    #4 the girl from amelie.

    #5 Juliet Binoche - plays the whore that teaches django how to pomade his moustache...

    #6 val kilmer - transvestite man-whore who befriends django and joseph after a amusing night of mishaps and confusion. his leitmotiff is the minch walse.

    edith piaff - bjork

    off the topic: is there a way to start a djangobooks internet radio station? something that would allow all the users to upload songs into the rotation?
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  • Elva LedesmaElva Ledesma Seattle, WANew
    Posts: 32
    Any chance you could be less offensive to women?

    --Elva
    --Elva
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