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That's assuming they did it when it was vintage, and not a workhorse guitar.
Buco,
Many if not most of the old Selmer’s have had work done to them so an altered 500 series is probably more preferable to an altered 800 series. The one thing I won’t be able to replicate with the 500 series one is the provenance that 823 has. The feeling knowing one of Django’s rhythm players used this is a pretty unique. Again this guitar plays well.
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@Scoredog He not only played with Django, but also with the his cousins, the Ferret brothers, as well as with Gus Viseur. I think that provenance to the guitar IS important as you say. I think it is cool you can sort of see the ghost of where the old pickguard was and the top wear from both leftys and rightys. Its a good story and well documented.
Neat back too. Sort of like the eye of Sauron!
Did he own this guitar when he played with Django? In that case Django must've checked it out at some point.
Most had work done on them. I don't if they've been altered. I mean maybe, sure. I know in the old Martins world, people go to great lengths making whatever needs fixing or replacing, is period correct. But I don't know if it's the same thing with Selmers and other high value guitars in this universe.
Maybe Django even played this guitar -- seems quite possible!
Maybe but no way to prove that of course, so I presume no unless proven otherwise and if he did it would have been lefty so…
Buco, I think Selmers being altered is not taken as being as bad for value as an old Martin. That said if one was found in pristine condition it would probably fetch top dollar.
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That said if one was found in pristine condition it would probably fetch top dollar.
And it might also sound like crap! Sometimes guitars need work to be playable. If you want it pristine, it might look nice hanging on a wall. When we talk about doing work on these Selmers, I think of Les Paul trying to put a whammy bar on his and caving the top in. 😱
I really don't think the "collectible" market for Selmers has existed for a long time. Really for guitars in general. I think it was in the late-80s/early-90s when some old Les Pauls (and comic books, for that matter) were starting to be seen as alternative investments by Wall Street folks, rather than musical tools. You see that now with Pokemon cards being hot.
Japanese collectors in the 80s/90s were also a factor because they were fine with paying huge premiums for vintage guitars, which absolutely contributed to resetting the market. Also, speaking of vintage Les Pauls, Slash himself was hugely responsible for bringing them back; post-Van Halen, Les Pauls were collecting dust at music stores because everyone wanted super strats but that all changed soon as Sweet Child was released.
The guitar sounds very good, but very different than my Selmers, #560 and 561. It's interesting the luthiers at Selmer were always trying to tweak the sound.
Does anyone know a source for those repro cases, like the one pictured? Thanks!