Thanks for posting that stuff.
Can you explain what you did and do exactly when you sit down to practise?
How do you go about enhancing your playing, your musical growth and instrumental technique?
I'll answer the same way as I did in an earlier thread.
I learned that bop-style quite fast from listening to records and concerts. One of my teachers also pointed out two very useful things about playing bop; first of course the importance of swing but also that you have to create melody lines that implies chords, bass etc. almost like in Baroque-music.
Personally I like both Bach and bebop and although the styles are very different from each other, there are many similarities. A good bebop-phrase and a written line by Bach have one important thing in common. When you here the melody only, you feel like you hear the bass, the chords and the progressions very clear (although it's not actually being played )because the melody-line is so strong!
When I teach other guitarists how to play bop I always let them improvise over the chord-changes with steady time (8th notes) without any chords and basslines. This always reveals if they got the ability of playing over chord-changes or if they are just cheating...often by trying to play "hip" outside notes This way I practice Django-style songs as well, trying to play a solo-line so clear that people can immediately tell what song I'm playing without hearing the chords or the "actual" melody.
Then when you know how to do this, you can try to good outside of the chord-changes in super-impose other chords and progressions. I really like some of the modern players like Kurt Rosenwinkel. Although he is playing very modern and "outside" you can hear that he knows the bebop-vocabulary. I think that those who know the tradition can really make something new and interesting if they try
Best Regards
Andreas
I've almost never practiced technique, it something that I've had naturally from the start. When I started with Gypsy Jazz I had to work on some patterns like down-down-up etc. because I wasn't used to play those.
My best advice is to play along with fast songs on cd's, to be able to swing and create your own melodies in faster tempos. If you just practice fast patterns on your own, it can very easily get stiff..
Try to sing along when you play(practice), it doesn't have to be loud like a proper scat
Putting the metronome on backbeat(2&4) might help you with your problem with skipping beats. Then you also get a nice feel for the swing instead of putting the metronome on 1&3.
Dennis, if you explain to me how to attach a picture to my posts, then I'll attach the score for "My kind of bebop" from my latest album (based on the changes of Cherokee). The melody is a good example of what I'm talking about.
Best regards
Andreas
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Dennis, the lick you're refering to (often played by Ulf W)is originally a Joe Pass-lick.
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Joe plays this lick a lot, I have a solo version on video where he plays it over Willow weep for me.
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Thanks for posting that stuff.
Can you explain what you did and do exactly when you sit down to practise?
How do you go about enhancing your playing, your musical growth and instrumental technique?
Regards,
Alexander
Good question
I'll answer the same way as I did in an earlier thread.
I learned that bop-style quite fast from listening to records and concerts. One of my teachers also pointed out two very useful things about playing bop; first of course the importance of swing but also that you have to create melody lines that implies chords, bass etc. almost like in Baroque-music.
Personally I like both Bach and bebop and although the styles are very different from each other, there are many similarities. A good bebop-phrase and a written line by Bach have one important thing in common. When you here the melody only, you feel like you hear the bass, the chords and the progressions very clear (although it's not actually being played )because the melody-line is so strong!
When I teach other guitarists how to play bop I always let them improvise over the chord-changes with steady time (8th notes) without any chords and basslines. This always reveals if they got the ability of playing over chord-changes or if they are just cheating...often by trying to play "hip" outside notes This way I practice Django-style songs as well, trying to play a solo-line so clear that people can immediately tell what song I'm playing without hearing the chords or the "actual" melody.
Then when you know how to do this, you can try to good outside of the chord-changes in super-impose other chords and progressions. I really like some of the modern players like Kurt Rosenwinkel. Although he is playing very modern and "outside" you can hear that he knows the bebop-vocabulary. I think that those who know the tradition can really make something new and interesting if they try
Best Regards
Andreas
http://www.andreasoberg.com
http://www.myspace.com/andreasoberg
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6770376591
I've almost never practiced technique, it something that I've had naturally from the start. When I started with Gypsy Jazz I had to work on some patterns like down-down-up etc. because I wasn't used to play those.
My best advice is to play along with fast songs on cd's, to be able to swing and create your own melodies in faster tempos. If you just practice fast patterns on your own, it can very easily get stiff..
Best Regards
Andreas
http://www.andreasoberg.com
http://www.myspace.com/andreasoberg
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6770376591
most of the time, it is ok but i realize sometimes i add/miss an extra beat or two.... how do you overcome this?
maybe i should move to sweden for a year to study with you haha
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Putting the metronome on backbeat(2&4) might help you with your problem with skipping beats. Then you also get a nice feel for the swing instead of putting the metronome on 1&3.
Dennis, if you explain to me how to attach a picture to my posts, then I'll attach the score for "My kind of bebop" from my latest album (based on the changes of Cherokee). The melody is a good example of what I'm talking about.
Best regards
Andreas
http://www.andreasoberg.com
http://www.myspace.com/andreasoberg
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6770376591
when u have the metronome on 2 and 4... do you tap that? or do u feel in your head 1 and 3 (while the metronome does 2 and 4)
for "my kind of bebop", i've already transcribed that song in powertab format, if you're ok with it, i can certainly make it available to others...
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