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MontereyJacques · June 2006

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Elliot · June 2006

I really don't think that the people that Robin Hood fed by stealing from the rich considered him a thief. By your argument you must also believe that a slave that steals a piece of bread from the Master's table to feed his children deserves to be whipped to death as well. Granted we're talking about food for the soul and not the stomach here, but as someone who I can guarantee considering how much money I've earned this year has spent a greater percentage of his income on GJ products than anyone else in this forum I can only hope for anyone here with aspirations to make it in the GJ field that they reach the level where people are desperate to dl their music, free or not. So, screw the major labels - all 2 (or is it 3?) of them! Besides, they are big enough to have their own lawyers to fight their battles for them, which they do quite well.

However, as I've said, it is a different case for small labels and people who are making their own cds, like many people I know, including me. I just don't believe you can lump both cases together in the same argument. I understand that when cassette tape recorders came out they made the same charge - all the musicians and companies will go broke! That hasn't happened, as far as I know, and it was a battle to even get to the point where making a cd to distribute through ones own means was even possible. No love lost there.

So, MJ, if you want to go after 'flat9' or whatever he signs as, go right ahead, you have every right to. Just don't ask me to help pay for David Geffen's third yacht.

MontereyJacques · June 2006

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Elliot · June 2006

MJ:

You know what....?

You're absolutely right! We're both in agreement that ultimately it is the artist that should be in full control of how and how much of the work should be publicized and distributed. I especially don't like people messing with my man Angelo.

The relationship between capitalism and art has always been problematic at the very least. The mere commodification of art product works against creativity - where is Django's Valse album? I want to hear Django blowing chorus after chorus in a freewheeling all night jam session! Let him give full vent to his genius with unaccompanied solos that last more than 3:00! I do believe in the loss-leader concept: I never heard a note from Wrembel, but now that I have, I will definitely buy a cd or go to a show if he's playing next time I'm back home. Did he get cheated out of a potential sale? I suppose so. Maybe 30 seconds would have been enough, but like a painting I have to live with it for a while to get the full benefit out of it and be able to judge how much of a fan I am. I would rather have just borrowed it from a friend. Many people believe they should never have to pay for any music at all, despite having 5,000 tunes on their Ipods or whatever. On the other hand, there are people in Geffen's position who will record artists and not promote or maybe not even release their music for one reason or another, and since they've signed a contract, there is nothing they can do about it. I suppose it is up to him since he is taking the risk as you say, but it is stuff like this that drives even big names toward smaller more controllable means, if they haven't been totally disemboweled.

And, as you've said, since just about anything that can be sold is available on the net a few clicks away, just what does the word 'obscure' mean anyway?

It has been a nice discussion, I have enjoyed it. But now, it is Brandy and Bed for me....I'll tell her you said hello.

MontereyJacques · June 2006

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Jack · June 2006

Hi all,

I just noticed that Stephane added a comment to the post of his album there, and didn't seem to mind in the least that it was available for download. I feel a bit foolish since I sent him an email last night about it all...

Jack · June 2006

After some email back and forth with both M.Jacques and Stephane, it's pretty clear that Stephane didn't realize his album was available for download there. Since then both MJ and I have posted comments on the blog trying to convince whomever runs it to do something a bit more ethical...

Best,
Jack.

Update: The site host responded to the comments, which seems like a good start, though he isn't inclined to take anything offline. I'll be interested to see if Jon's comments below have an effect (for those who haven't looked at the site, he published something similar in one of the comments sections).

MichaelHorowitz · June 2006

Just got this from Jon Larsen of Hot Club Records:

To all our contacts,

A pirate on the net http://gypsymp3.blogspot.com/ is offering "free downlads" of CDs with Bireli Lagrene, Angelo Debarre, Stephane Wrembel, Richard Galliano, Francis Alfred Moerman, Django, Mandino Reinhardt, myself, and others - these downloads are ILLEGAL. What he is doing is not "sharing" but STEALING from the artists! None of us on the list of his downloads can afford to give away our life's work for free just like that.

This coward (he is operating anonymous, calls himself "flat9") must be stopped!

If you know some way to help - please do, thank you in advance. If you visit his blogspot - leave a comment, tell him to stop.

Thank you very much!
Sincerely yours,

HOT CLUB RECORDS - New music will continue to be released from here, unless "flat9" continous...
Jon Larsen

pallopenna · June 2006

There is an objectionable content flag on the blog page (upper right corner). Blogger keeps track of the flags. If enough people flag the page, then perhaps some action will result.