why do all Bossa's sound like elevator music ??

kevingcox

I am completely and deeply in love with the sentiments expressed in this thread.

Archtop Eddy

I was in a hurry as I jumped into the elevator of the 19 floor Plaza La Bossa.
I asked the operator to push the button to the top floor and here's what I heard as I went past each floor:

1. Chega De Saudade, Rosenberg Trio
2.Blue Bossa, Rosenberg Trio
3.For Sephora, Rosenberg Trio
4.Flamingo, Rosenberg Trio
5.Sunny, Rosenberg Trio
6.Blues for Issac, Rosenberg Trio
7.For Wesley, Jimmy Rosenberg
8.Salinas, Stevve Laffont
9.Agridulce, GBQ
10. Elena's Bossa, GBQ
11.A Una Carloca, GBQ
12. Song for Reno, RNT
13. Senor Bob, RNT
14. Estrella, RNT
15. Number 1, RNT
16. When I Was A Boy, Biel Ballester Trio
17. Per Na Cola, Biel Ballester Trio
18. Es Soparet, Biel Ballester Trio
As the door opened for the 19th floor and I could hear Missing Maracu by the Biel Ballester Trio, the elevator operator said, "Have good Gypsy Bossa day, sir."

"And...," he said with a wink, "it's not always Bossa Dorado."

AE

Bob Holo

Haha... but Ed, could you Bossa your way to the top of the Sears tower?

I don't like smoothjazz Bossas, but if Bossas are light and clever and saucy and brief, they can be wonderful. But yes, plodding dull long bossas - particularly in a jam circle of guys who are reading charts can get pretty bad... 10 solos and 20 minutes later you finish the song 30bpm slower than you started... (shudder)

Rhythm changes songs can be tough in a jam circle too, but for a different reason. People get in that "Bing Bing Bing Bing" pattern like a kid on a pogo stick - and it stops swinging.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a course at Django in June on the aspects of playing the various styles of songs that are common to GJ and how to use them to create a flow to a set of music to help engage an audience or enliven a jam. Good artists do this, so clearly there's some logic to it, but too often in jams, the only type of songs guaranteed to not decimate the jam are mid-tempo pompe-o-matic tunes.

pinkgary

I like the way they break up a set. We do one bossa, one waltz, one summit else(caravan, brazil, rhythme futur, bullitt etc) per 45-50 min set. This only changes if we're doing something like a swing dance.

Otherwise, the same rhythm for 50 minutes gets irritating.. Hell, even for me, never mind the folk i tend to play to.



And Sweet Georgia Brown is in there too sometimes.... But not always.

bbwood_98

I hate gypsy bossa!!
wish I could hear people play real bossa rhythm (which by the way dorado uses on the earliest recording of bossa dorado I've got!). I like the idea of having different rhythms in a set - but its got to swing, be coherent, and not go off into la la land.
I'm also with the anti SWB crowd- I mean, Bird swings the shit out if this, so does anita o'day . . .
Glad to hear others say this too!
B.

Matt Mitchell

your nightmare

Archtop Eddy

Haha Matt. I must be sick. I LIKE it! Most intersting SGB I've heard in a long time! AE

Passacaglia

I want a doob. 8)

Al Watsky

Bob Holo wrote:

Haha... but Ed, could you Bossa your way to the top of the Sears tower?

I don't like smoothjazz Bossas, but if Bossas are light and clever and saucy and brief, they can be wonderful. But yes, plodding dull long bossas - particularly in a jam circle of guys who are reading charts can get pretty bad... 10 solos and 20 minutes later you finish the song 30bpm slower than you started... (shudder)

Rhythm changes songs can be tough in a jam circle too, but for a different reason. People get in that "Bing Bing Bing Bing" pattern like a kid on a pogo stick - and it stops swinging.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a course at Django in June on the aspects of playing the various styles of songs that are common to GJ and how to use them to create a flow to a set of music to help engage an audience or enliven a jam. Good artists do this, so clearly there's some logic to it, but too often in jams, the only type of songs guaranteed to not decimate the jam are mid-tempo pompe-o-matic tunes.

Among professional jazz musicians the term "jam session music" comes up. Jam session tunes and etc.Its not every body's cup of tea. Jams are OK but , sometimes its not the most musical experience. Closed sessions are one thing, open jams another.

frater

That's a great rendition Matt. Couldn't figure out where I had heard it before but now I remember!