Gypsy Picking...impossible

dennis

Angelo s technique is absurd indeed but i meant that the lines he tends to play are not as trchnical in nature as stochelo s, especially in some of the compositions. Angelo s lines pend themselves really well to the trhnique, whereas stochelo s lines are sometimes really unorthodox, check out the waltzes he plays for example with all the consecutive downstrokes! It s crazy. I m not saying angelo cant do it but i ve never seen him do them, those kinds of lines just arent part of his style

Charles Meadows

Well put Dennis. Stochelo's phrasing is a lot harder than Angelo's. As someone coming out of bluegrass flatpicking and metal Angelo is a lot more approachable. His lines are a lot more "linear" and use the pinky more. I find some of Stochelo's stuff very hard to play.

wim

I feel that Angelo plays more interesting things, but Stochelo has the better sound. I like to listen to them both, it's not possible to compare direct they are too different in style. Sound is not everything, but after DIJ 2014 I am aware more than ever that it is such a damn important thing to have a good strong sound.

You can play even very simple and basic stuff with a good sound and it is likable. Then you can play crazy bat shit fast insane amazing complex stuff, but with a poor sound it is not likable.

To me there is no question that you need the 'broken wrist' to get a good sound, if you are playing acoustically

Jazzaferri

I have had more than I should
S to drink tonight ...one of my oldest friend's daughter got married


but guys can we not just agree Stochelo is Stochelo and Angelo is Angelo and they both are able to express themselves well. Neither is better or worse ar any of that a s**** t

crookedpinky

I think both are amazing but I do agree with Wim in that I prefer what Angelo plays but Stochelo probably does have a more consistently, better tone. I didn't intend to start a "one is better than the other" element in this and I did say " I prefer Angelo in terms of feel and emotional content, but that's a personal preference and no slight on Stochelos talents and gift"

Charles Meadows

They're both awesome. I do like to hear more experienced GJ folks analyze their differences though - it's kinda enlightening for me.

lostjohn

Adding my part to this exercise in futility, I personally prefer Angelo's tone. What I hear is muscular, solid tone, with none of thin-ness (don't really think that is a word) that my brain perceives in some GJ leads. It's very difficult to describe sound with mere words, though.
Of course, I think it is pretty much universally agreed here that, at the level these guys play, it is only very subtle differences in taste that color our opinions.
Vive le difference!!

AmundLauritzen

For me, Stochelo is number one, no question about it.

The tone needs to have a certain growl and nasal quality to it, which we hear from the Dutch players because they pick closer to the bridge.

Feigeli Prisor and Eddy Grünholz are great examples of this:



The tone and playing has guts and confidence.

lostjohn

Amund,
Oddly, enough, I have described Angelo's playing as having a "growl" that I don't hear with most players - no kidding - funny!

crookedpinky

lostjohn wrote: »

Adding my part to this exercise in futility, I personally prefer Angelo's tone. What I hear is muscular, solid tone, with none of thin-ness (don't really think that is a word) that my brain perceives in some GJ leads. It's very difficult to describe sound with mere words, though.
Of course, I think it is pretty much universally agreed here that, at the level these guys play, it is only very subtle differences in taste that color our opinions.
Vive le difference!!

Hear, hear. Spot on