There are probably others far better positioned to judge what the appropriate value is for these vintage instruments. I will say that the Di Mauros and the Castellucias can give you a nice vintage instrument for a fraction of the cost you'd get for a Selmer or Busato. On "pound for pound" basis, those vintage Selmers may not be that MUCH better sounding. So, if you are looking for vintage value, they're probably a good place to start. For $900, with these type of guitars, you can't get much lower unless you are @AndyW and@Jangle_Jamie doing bargain shopping at the auctions. (hat tip to both gents for the great finds they've come up with!)
Hard to say, dude. Didn't see the one you are talking about. Maybe it had severe, unstabilized cracks, a bowed neck, or any other host of problems. I did say there are others who can probably guide you better. However, I'm sure you can (and SHOULD!) do your own research if you spot something you like. For instance, here's a past listing on Reverb for an old Castellucia which appears to be twice the listed price of the one you mention. Not sure how the condition pairs with the one you were looking at.
I WILL stand by the fact that if the instrument plays even halfway decent, $900 is not a bad price for any instrument. A new Saga Gitane (budget friendly, entry-level guitar) would cost that much. An Altamira might be slightly nicer and as a used instrument might be around that level. Helps if you can play it or if there are returns allowed. Do you have a specific budget you are looking at?
Who can say what any particular gypsy guitar is worth? They're not fungible and there is a liquidity issue :)
900 would be a pretty low price for a Castelluccia, but not shockingly low. They're about 2k (new) and leboncoin prices would probably be like 900-1500
LeBonCoin used to be worth watching, I had bought a few from that site some time ago but now they have rules in place making it hard for buyers outside of mainland Europe. Also, in my case I was prepared to take a risk buying unseen and the other side of the world, not everyone would want to do that.
From what I have seen in France, yes there are some expensive shops around in Paris, Casanova (ex-F Charle) is definitely high-end only and priced accordingly. Guitare Village have always seemed to be priced fairly usually with a fair range. Maybe a benefit of being a little way out in the suburbs,
What surprised me last time I was browsing the shops in Rue de Doaui off the Boulevard Clichy and if their window displays are anything to go by the big money Parisians are spending is all going on Fenders of dubious vintage or worse new 'relics'. There are other shops around but I suspect it would be worth looking at places outside of Paris too, like Le Shop in Lyon (every town will have at least one shop).
As for what guitar names are worth what prices I suspect many on here still believe the name is everything. For example I have had several Di Mauros, and I persevered because I wanted to like them, but in the end I had to concede they did not suit me, all had thick but narrow necks. Nice guitars sure, but try before you buy. Also re the reference to Castelluccias, I had one of the old Grande Bouche types from the 1950s (as played by Dorado), nice guitar, easy to play in good condition and the best I could sell it for here in Australia was AU$1,250 a few years back. It is all about supply and demand I guess.
in my country there no shops with gypsy jazz guitars maybe a couple of luthiers in the country and thats the problem i have as i cant try that kind of guitar.Also can you buy guitars on leboncoin being outside of france?
Also can you buy guitars on leboncoin being outside of france?
As Chris says above, it's complicated.
When I did last year I needed a French telephone number, of someone who doesn't already have a Leboncoin account, and a French mailing address to receive the item and then mail it to me.
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There are probably others far better positioned to judge what the appropriate value is for these vintage instruments. I will say that the Di Mauros and the Castellucias can give you a nice vintage instrument for a fraction of the cost you'd get for a Selmer or Busato. On "pound for pound" basis, those vintage Selmers may not be that MUCH better sounding. So, if you are looking for vintage value, they're probably a good place to start. For $900, with these type of guitars, you can't get much lower unless you are @AndyW and@Jangle_Jamie doing bargain shopping at the auctions. (hat tip to both gents for the great finds they've come up with!)
so just to clarify you mean that for 900$ the instrument its worth. Am i right?
Hard to say, dude. Didn't see the one you are talking about. Maybe it had severe, unstabilized cracks, a bowed neck, or any other host of problems. I did say there are others who can probably guide you better. However, I'm sure you can (and SHOULD!) do your own research if you spot something you like. For instance, here's a past listing on Reverb for an old Castellucia which appears to be twice the listed price of the one you mention. Not sure how the condition pairs with the one you were looking at.
https://reverb.com/item/23931931-gypsy-jazz-guitar-castelluccia
I WILL stand by the fact that if the instrument plays even halfway decent, $900 is not a bad price for any instrument. A new Saga Gitane (budget friendly, entry-level guitar) would cost that much. An Altamira might be slightly nicer and as a used instrument might be around that level. Helps if you can play it or if there are returns allowed. Do you have a specific budget you are looking at?
Who can say what any particular gypsy guitar is worth? They're not fungible and there is a liquidity issue :)
900 would be a pretty low price for a Castelluccia, but not shockingly low. They're about 2k (new) and leboncoin prices would probably be like 900-1500
i have seen 2 nuages on leboncoin both 900 euro
i guess it would be something like max 950euro
LeBonCoin used to be worth watching, I had bought a few from that site some time ago but now they have rules in place making it hard for buyers outside of mainland Europe. Also, in my case I was prepared to take a risk buying unseen and the other side of the world, not everyone would want to do that.
From what I have seen in France, yes there are some expensive shops around in Paris, Casanova (ex-F Charle) is definitely high-end only and priced accordingly. Guitare Village have always seemed to be priced fairly usually with a fair range. Maybe a benefit of being a little way out in the suburbs,
What surprised me last time I was browsing the shops in Rue de Doaui off the Boulevard Clichy and if their window displays are anything to go by the big money Parisians are spending is all going on Fenders of dubious vintage or worse new 'relics'. There are other shops around but I suspect it would be worth looking at places outside of Paris too, like Le Shop in Lyon (every town will have at least one shop).
As for what guitar names are worth what prices I suspect many on here still believe the name is everything. For example I have had several Di Mauros, and I persevered because I wanted to like them, but in the end I had to concede they did not suit me, all had thick but narrow necks. Nice guitars sure, but try before you buy. Also re the reference to Castelluccias, I had one of the old Grande Bouche types from the 1950s (as played by Dorado), nice guitar, easy to play in good condition and the best I could sell it for here in Australia was AU$1,250 a few years back. It is all about supply and demand I guess.
in my country there no shops with gypsy jazz guitars maybe a couple of luthiers in the country and thats the problem i have as i cant try that kind of guitar.Also can you buy guitars on leboncoin being outside of france?
Also can you buy guitars on leboncoin being outside of france?
As Chris says above, it's complicated.
When I did last year I needed a French telephone number, of someone who doesn't already have a Leboncoin account, and a French mailing address to receive the item and then mail it to me.
oh so its not possible if you dont have a french number and address