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Hi all,
here are some pdfs I had . . as promised. They are for a specific band, so please-someone proof them, or enter them into finale (mostly they are short) and edit them.
Cheers,
B.
A few months ago I compiled a list of standards found on a couple of the JSP box sets and then looked in my Real Books to see what was there. Here are my results.
BTW, I may have missed a few here and there ... this list is in no way definitive or final! Hope it can help in some way. Numbers next to the tune represent the page number in that Real Book ... so "All of Me" appears in RB vol 1, page 20.
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 1, 6th ed.
All The Things You Are 22
All Of Me 20
Body and Soul 57
How High The Moon 180
I Can’t Give You Anything But Love 185
It Don’t Mean A Thing 224
Limehouse Blues 244
Solitude 336
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 2
Avalon 25
Blue Skies 58
C Jam Blues 74
Dinah 104
Georgia On My Mind 145
Honeysuckle Rose 167
I’ve Found A New Baby 188
In The Still Of The Night 198
It’s Only A Paper Moon 209
Moonglow 275
Nature Boy 284
Saint James Infirmary 338
St Louis Blues 366
Stardust 367
Sweet Sue, Just You 377
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 3
After You’ve Gone 12
Ain’t Misbehavin’ 13
Brazil 60
Chicago 78
I’ve Got My Love To Keep Me Warm 188
Just A Gigolo 225
Stormy Weather 382
What A Difference A Day Made 430
JSP TUNES NOT IN RBs
Blue Moon
I Got Rhythm
Jeepers Creepers
Lady Be Good
Night And Day
Over The Rainbow
Sweet Georgia Brown
Tea For Two
What Is This Thing Called Love?
How wide would you like to extend the variety of tunes you want put in this book ? Django only ? Or do you plan on more ? I think more would be good since the Complete Django has already done such a great job with 81 tunes with charts and leads in normal notation and tab.
What's Jack is suggesting is also a great idea - mentioning the use some alternate notes / chords, it could be neat way to introduce variation by any Lafertin, Rosenberg or other Lagrene ?
How do you want to share the work ? What would I (we) need to do ?
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Well, I think the variety of tunes should be representative of what players are playing. Not just Django, not just old tunes. I want to keep it to strict Real Book standards. No tabs (pointless for other instruments) and no Grilles (pointless for almost everyone except GJ guitarists).
As for what variations to put in, maybe we can do that by committee. Just like when Jack corrected my chords.
As for sharing the work, we need:
Finale experts (willing to do layout, make it look nice, etc)
Finale beginners (note input, etc)
GJ experts who know all the best changes to help proofread
GJ enthusiasts who know the best songs to add
Anyone with pdfs, gifs, scanned copies of hand written leadsheats to add to the collection. It is much easier to work off of something already written down than to have to start from scratch.
I am also a copyist oddly with some film score background as well. Have Finale. Glad to help.
Aha! I knew there would be some finale experts around. Depending on how much effort you can put into it, you can be a huge help. Once this gets rolling, We'll try to assign work to people. You will be a main person, if you want to.
A few months ago I compiled a list of standards found on a couple of the JSP box sets and then looked in my Real Books to see what was there. Here are my results.
Excellent. So, now the question is, do we redo those charts as gypsy jazzers would do them, or just leave them be? My vote is on redoing them as they would be done in this style, but I am very open to ideas.
It seems like this project is a go. I take Michael's silence as him allowing us to do it, while not condoning it (for copyright reasons). I'll now make some pdfs of the other stuff that I have done and post it. Let me know changes that have to be made.
So, now the question is, do we redo those charts as gypsy jazzers would do them, or just leave them be? My vote is on redoing them as they would be done in this style, but I am very open to ideas.
Chris
Chris,
I concur - the changes used by GJ players are often different, and it would be useful to have charts that more nearly reflect GJ conventions.
Benny
"It's a great feeling to be dealing with material which is better than yourself, that you know you can never live up to."
-- Orson Welles
So, now the question is, do we redo those charts as gypsy jazzers would do them, or just leave them be? My vote is on redoing them as they would be done in this style, but I am very open to ideas.
That's a good point and one worthy of exploring. Even the Real Book charts are based on certain performances or just generally accepted changes ... there's still some dispute about RB changes among jazz players--just look at the differences between the 5th and 6th editions of the Real Book, Vol 1!
I think most of the RB changes reflect the substitutions and harmonic awareness of bebop and other styles after swing and GJ. Lots of ii-Vs, tritone subs and maj7ths in those bebop changes!
Ulitimately, I think you'd do the tunes as GJers would ... but still, which era of GJers are we talking about? I'd think that many of the current players would have a pot pourri of pre-bop and bebop changes in those, don't you think?
Would the Django Fake Book assume a common practice period of the era around WWII, say 1939-1945? Or around Django's death, 1953? Or today, during the Great GJ Resurgence, 2007?
I concur - the changes used by GJ players are often different, and it would be useful to have charts that more nearly reflect GJ conventions.
Ok, well if no one else objects, we will put those on the list. Now we just need to find someone to make a list....
Here are 4 charts that I have done so far. One is the corrected Swing 42. All those proofreaders out there, tell me what you think. I got my changes from a book that isn't always accurate, so be brutal.
I don't know that I will have access to this page until late tonight, so I will work on the tunes that bbwood_98 uploaded. With any luck I'll be able to post those in the next couple days.
Just using the Cosimini indexes as a rough list, I've come up with a lot of tunes...obviously doing all of them would be a bit much at first, but maybe we can pare it down/add suggestions using this as a guide (I'm sure I'm overlooking a lot that's not included in Cosimini, but I'm posting from work again.)
After youve gone
Ain't Misbehavin
All Of Me
All The Things You Are
Anniversary Song
Anouman
Autumn Leaves
Avalon
Begin The Beguine
Belleville
Besame Mucho
Billet Doux
Blue Drag
Blue Skies
Blues Clair
Blues En Mineur
Blues for Ike
Body And Soul
Bossa Dorado
Brazil
Bricktop
Caravan
Cesar Swing
Chega De Saudade
Cherokee
Chez Jacquet
Chicago
China Boy
Clair de Lune
Clouds
Coquette
Cou Cou
Danse Norvegienne
Daphne
Dark Eyes
David
Dikeno Sinto
Dinah
Dinette
Djangology
Djangos Castle
Djangos Tiger
Donna Lee
Dont Worry About Me
Double Scotch (Double Whisky)
Douce Ambience
Echoes of France
Embraceable You
Esprit
Exactly Like You
Fleche d’Or
Fleur de Lavende
Georgia (On My Mind)
Honeysuckle Rose
How High The Moon
Hungaria
I Cant Beleive Your In Love With Me
I Cant Give You Anything But Love
I Wonder Where My Baby Is Tonight
Ill see you in my dreams
Im Confessin
In A Sentimental Mood
It Dont Mean A Thing
It Had To Be You
It's Only A Paper Moon
I've Found A New Baby
I've Had My Moments
(Je Suis) Seul Ce Soir
J'attendrai
Just one of those things
La Foule
La Gitane
Lady Be Good
Latcho Drom
Lentement Madamoiselle
Limehouse Blues
Lulu Swing
Ma Premiere Guitare
Melodie au Crepescule
Menilmontant
Metro Swing
Micro
Milko
Minor Swing
Montagene Saint Genevieve
My Melancholy Baby
Nature Boy
Night And Day
Noto Swing
Nuages
Nuits de Saint Germain de Pres
Old Man River
Oriental Shuffle
Ou est-tu Mon Amour
Out Of Nowhere
Over the Rainbow
Paquito
Pennies From Heaven
Place De Brouckere
Rose Room
September Song
Seul A Paris
Shine
Some Of These Days
Songe DAutomne
Stompin At Decca
Sweet Chorus
Sweet Georgia Brown
Sweet Sue
Swing a Bellevue
Swing 39
Swing 42
Swing 48
Swing Gitan
Swing Guitars
Swing Valse
Take the A Train
Tea for Two
Tears
The Man I Love
The Sheik Of Araby
Them there Eyes
There will never be another you
Tico Tico
Time On My Hands
Topsy
Troublant Bolero
Undecided
Valse A Dora
Valse A Rosenthal
Valse Bamboula
Wave
What is this thing called Love
When Day Is Done
Yesterdays
Here are 4 charts that I have done so far. One is the corrected Swing 42. All those proofreaders out there, tell me what you think. I got my changes from a book that isn't always accurate, so be brutal.
Hi Chris,
A few things jump out:
1)Minor Swing: the Bm7b5 is more commonly called Dm.
2)Djangology: Cm7 should be Am7 in bar 5. D7 should be E7 in the bridge.
3)Daphne: Not sure if it's just me...I don't do the Eb to Ab to Abm turnaround on the bridge, but just repeat the Eb/Cm/Fm/Bb progression for those two bars.
Hope that helps-I'm really impressed with your idea so far!
You are the man. Ok, I'll make those changes and repost. As for that list, I love it. That will be a good beginning point. Is anyone interested in pairing that down to a top 10? Then we can work from there.
Stackabones,
Good questions. I don't know the answers. I think we might have to take it on a song by song basis.
My big beef with the real book is they don't cover enough of the 1920s tunage. like even something like singing in the bathtub a novelty tune would be soemthgin I would choose for a Gypsy or old style set list.
People who don't own Finale can get finale Notepad for free. Version issues are the only ut oh i foresee.
Comments
here are some pdfs I had . . as promised. They are for a specific band, so please-someone proof them, or enter them into finale (mostly they are short) and edit them.
Cheers,
B.
BTW, I may have missed a few here and there ... this list is in no way definitive or final! Hope it can help in some way. Numbers next to the tune represent the page number in that Real Book ... so "All of Me" appears in RB vol 1, page 20.
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 1, 6th ed.
All The Things You Are 22
All Of Me 20
Body and Soul 57
How High The Moon 180
I Can’t Give You Anything But Love 185
It Don’t Mean A Thing 224
Limehouse Blues 244
Solitude 336
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 2
Avalon 25
Blue Skies 58
C Jam Blues 74
Dinah 104
Georgia On My Mind 145
Honeysuckle Rose 167
I’ve Found A New Baby 188
In The Still Of The Night 198
It’s Only A Paper Moon 209
Moonglow 275
Nature Boy 284
Saint James Infirmary 338
St Louis Blues 366
Stardust 367
Sweet Sue, Just You 377
Standards Done In GJ Found In Real Book, Vol 3
After You’ve Gone 12
Ain’t Misbehavin’ 13
Brazil 60
Chicago 78
I’ve Got My Love To Keep Me Warm 188
Just A Gigolo 225
Stormy Weather 382
What A Difference A Day Made 430
JSP TUNES NOT IN RBs
Blue Moon
I Got Rhythm
Jeepers Creepers
Lady Be Good
Night And Day
Over The Rainbow
Sweet Georgia Brown
Tea For Two
What Is This Thing Called Love?
Well, I think the variety of tunes should be representative of what players are playing. Not just Django, not just old tunes. I want to keep it to strict Real Book standards. No tabs (pointless for other instruments) and no Grilles (pointless for almost everyone except GJ guitarists).
As for what variations to put in, maybe we can do that by committee. Just like when Jack corrected my chords.
As for sharing the work, we need:
Finale experts (willing to do layout, make it look nice, etc)
Finale beginners (note input, etc)
GJ experts who know all the best changes to help proofread
GJ enthusiasts who know the best songs to add
Anyone with pdfs, gifs, scanned copies of hand written leadsheats to add to the collection. It is much easier to work off of something already written down than to have to start from scratch.
That is great! They look nice. I'll be able to put those into my template super quickly.
As I said above, any way you can get it to me is awesome.
Aha! I knew there would be some finale experts around. Depending on how much effort you can put into it, you can be a huge help. Once this gets rolling, We'll try to assign work to people. You will be a main person, if you want to.
Excellent. So, now the question is, do we redo those charts as gypsy jazzers would do them, or just leave them be? My vote is on redoing them as they would be done in this style, but I am very open to ideas.
It seems like this project is a go. I take Michael's silence as him allowing us to do it, while not condoning it (for copyright reasons). I'll now make some pdfs of the other stuff that I have done and post it. Let me know changes that have to be made.
Chris
Chris,
I concur - the changes used by GJ players are often different, and it would be useful to have charts that more nearly reflect GJ conventions.
"It's a great feeling to be dealing with material which is better than yourself, that you know you can never live up to."
-- Orson Welles
That's a good point and one worthy of exploring. Even the Real Book charts are based on certain performances or just generally accepted changes ... there's still some dispute about RB changes among jazz players--just look at the differences between the 5th and 6th editions of the Real Book, Vol 1!
I think most of the RB changes reflect the substitutions and harmonic awareness of bebop and other styles after swing and GJ. Lots of ii-Vs, tritone subs and maj7ths in those bebop changes!
Ulitimately, I think you'd do the tunes as GJers would ... but still, which era of GJers are we talking about? I'd think that many of the current players would have a pot pourri of pre-bop and bebop changes in those, don't you think?
Would the Django Fake Book assume a common practice period of the era around WWII, say 1939-1945? Or around Django's death, 1953? Or today, during the Great GJ Resurgence, 2007?
Ok, well if no one else objects, we will put those on the list. Now we just need to find someone to make a list....
Here are 4 charts that I have done so far. One is the corrected Swing 42. All those proofreaders out there, tell me what you think. I got my changes from a book that isn't always accurate, so be brutal.
I don't know that I will have access to this page until late tonight, so I will work on the tunes that bbwood_98 uploaded. With any luck I'll be able to post those in the next couple days.
After youve gone
Ain't Misbehavin
All Of Me
All The Things You Are
Anniversary Song
Anouman
Autumn Leaves
Avalon
Begin The Beguine
Belleville
Besame Mucho
Billet Doux
Blue Drag
Blue Skies
Blues Clair
Blues En Mineur
Blues for Ike
Body And Soul
Bossa Dorado
Brazil
Bricktop
Caravan
Cesar Swing
Chega De Saudade
Cherokee
Chez Jacquet
Chicago
China Boy
Clair de Lune
Clouds
Coquette
Cou Cou
Danse Norvegienne
Daphne
Dark Eyes
David
Dikeno Sinto
Dinah
Dinette
Djangology
Djangos Castle
Djangos Tiger
Donna Lee
Dont Worry About Me
Double Scotch (Double Whisky)
Douce Ambience
Echoes of France
Embraceable You
Esprit
Exactly Like You
Fleche d’Or
Fleur de Lavende
Georgia (On My Mind)
Honeysuckle Rose
How High The Moon
Hungaria
I Cant Beleive Your In Love With Me
I Cant Give You Anything But Love
I Wonder Where My Baby Is Tonight
Ill see you in my dreams
Im Confessin
In A Sentimental Mood
It Dont Mean A Thing
It Had To Be You
It's Only A Paper Moon
I've Found A New Baby
I've Had My Moments
(Je Suis) Seul Ce Soir
J'attendrai
Just one of those things
La Foule
La Gitane
Lady Be Good
Latcho Drom
Lentement Madamoiselle
Limehouse Blues
Lulu Swing
Ma Premiere Guitare
Melodie au Crepescule
Menilmontant
Metro Swing
Micro
Milko
Minor Swing
Montagene Saint Genevieve
My Melancholy Baby
Nature Boy
Night And Day
Noto Swing
Nuages
Nuits de Saint Germain de Pres
Old Man River
Oriental Shuffle
Ou est-tu Mon Amour
Out Of Nowhere
Over the Rainbow
Paquito
Pennies From Heaven
Place De Brouckere
Rose Room
September Song
Seul A Paris
Shine
Some Of These Days
Songe DAutomne
Stompin At Decca
Sweet Chorus
Sweet Georgia Brown
Sweet Sue
Swing a Bellevue
Swing 39
Swing 42
Swing 48
Swing Gitan
Swing Guitars
Swing Valse
Take the A Train
Tea for Two
Tears
The Man I Love
The Sheik Of Araby
Them there Eyes
There will never be another you
Tico Tico
Time On My Hands
Topsy
Troublant Bolero
Undecided
Valse A Dora
Valse A Rosenthal
Valse Bamboula
Wave
What is this thing called Love
When Day Is Done
Yesterdays
best,
Jack.
Hi Chris,
A few things jump out:
1)Minor Swing: the Bm7b5 is more commonly called Dm.
2)Djangology: Cm7 should be Am7 in bar 5. D7 should be E7 in the bridge.
3)Daphne: Not sure if it's just me...I don't do the Eb to Ab to Abm turnaround on the bridge, but just repeat the Eb/Cm/Fm/Bb progression for those two bars.
Hope that helps-I'm really impressed with your idea so far!
best,
Jack.
You are the man. Ok, I'll make those changes and repost. As for that list, I love it. That will be a good beginning point. Is anyone interested in pairing that down to a top 10? Then we can work from there.
Stackabones,
Good questions. I don't know the answers. I think we might have to take it on a song by song basis.
People who don't own Finale can get finale Notepad for free. Version issues are the only ut oh i foresee.
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