Lets write a fake book together

djangology

So, is the plan to post the fakebook on the djangobooks WIKI? What was decided on that? I think WIKI is a nice idea because then poeple can post what they think of the changes and they can also request and discuss changes in a chart.

Also, I like all the charts except for that Daphne chart. I prefer a turnaround like the one expressed in robin nolans books. You see what I mean when you try playing Djangos head over the chords.

Also, I personally think that because of the nature of gypsy jazz, that "A-" notation should be avoided in favor of a more specific "A-6" or "A-7". Personally I think it makes a difference. If you are just creating a "jazz fakebook of gypsy jazz standards" then I think it is cool to use the "A-" shorthand but if you are making a "gypsy jazz fakebook for jazz standards" then I think its important to get the harmony gypsy-fied. Gypsy soloist follow different soloing patterns than typical jazz players and therefore need a very predictable chord harmony right? Shouldn't we differentiate? Otherwise we get lots of fusion players coming in with small chord variations and that would nuke a good gypsy solo.

Anyone have any comments or answers on this?

Elliot

Chris and all:

I uploaded a fake book style cover with the pic as a jpeg in real size 8" x 10".

I'm thinking of doing a Russian Constructivist cover sometime later just for kicks also.

If you need me to reformat or resize it let me know.

Chris Peterson

Wirralgitane wrote:

Ok, can you give me a deadline? What i'll do is start it up tonight and if it doesn't make it to the print then thats fine too.

By the way i call this 'Jazz Art'. An Interpretation thru my ears of Django. Somethin i made up myself. How big should it be?

Ash.

No real deadline as of yet. At this point we have less than 10 tunes and they all need revisions. I would imagine this project could take months, so whenever you can get something, that would be great.

Elliot wrote:

Chris and all:

I uploaded a simple cover with the pic as a jpeg in real size 8" x 10". I am anticipating another line of print on the bottom edge.

I'm thinking of doing a Russian Constructivist cover later just for kicks also.

If you need me to reformat or resize it let me know.

Looks great, Elliot. I put it on the main page.

Chris Peterson

robertsaunders wrote:

I need to find out more about Finale, since now all the charts I write out are by hand, thus tedious to do. Once I get a music scoring app I might possibly lend a hand.

Finale notepad works great (as others have mentioned). All we need is note input. The copyists on board can do all the layout necessary.

djangology wrote:

So, is the plan to post the fakebook on the djangobooks WIKI? What was decided on that? I think WIKI is a nice idea because then poeple can post what they think of the changes and they can also request and discuss changes in a chart.

Also, I like all the charts except for that Daphne chart. I prefer a turnaround like the one expressed in robin nolans books. You see what I mean when you try playing Djangos head over the chords.

Also, I personally think that because of the nature of gypsy jazz, that "A-" notation should be avoided in favor of a more specific "A-6" or "A-7". Personally I think it makes a difference. If you are just creating a "jazz fakebook of gypsy jazz standards" then I think it is cool to use the "A-" shorthand but if you are making a "gypsy jazz fakebook for jazz standards" then I think its important to get the harmony gypsy-fied. Gypsy soloist follow different soloing patterns than typical jazz players and therefore need a very predictable chord harmony right? Shouldn't we differentiate? Otherwise we get lots of fusion players coming in with small chord variations and that would nuke a good gypsy solo.

Anyone have any comments or answers on this?

I think we are still on to post the tunes on the djangobooks wiki. We just don't have any tunes that are done with proofreading. Everyone is still making suggestions.

As for just putting A- rather than A-6 or A-7, I'll leave that up to the rest of you. What do you think?

Jack wrote:

I've just put editing notes on a few pages, but I'm not sure yet if it will be more effective to hash things out here before making changes on the wiki.

From now on, lets stick to the wiki. It is designed so people can write their comments on there. That way we don't have multiple places to look. Then we can keep this thread open for larger questions (how to use finale, what changes need to be made globally, etc)

robertsaunders

Chris,

On style of notation, such as whether to use Am6, AMin6, or A-6; or AMaj7, AM7, or A(triangle)7, what if people simply vote their preferences by emailing them to one person. That would get a consensus, and chickens like me could stay under the radar. It's also democratic (which may not be the best way of creating art). Just my two cents.

-Rob

robertsaunders

If someone has a strong opinion, it could still be helpful to hear their (brief) rationale for one system over another. Such as when space is tight, or quick read is paramount, or wide audience calls for most elementary alphanumeric sequence, blah blah...

AJATango

m or - is fine for minor. major MUST be maj NOT M..that's dangerously confusing. Also 'o' or dim for diminished '+' or aug for augmented
m7b5 or -7b5 is correct half diminished is not.

I think we should keep to some standard Berklee's seems to be ok for the most part. I don;t foresee any major league upper extension chords.

robertsaunders

Bingo!

And we're off...

AJATango

I was already off...my rocker hehe

Chris Peterson

AJATango wrote:

m or - is fine for minor. major MUST be maj NOT M..that's dangerously confusing. Also 'o' or dim for diminished '+' or aug for augmented
m7b5 or -7b5 is correct half diminished is not.

I think we should keep to some standard Berklee's seems to be ok for the most part. I don;t foresee any major league upper extension chords.

I agree with everything you said. Those are the standards that I am using to do this work, and I think it is fine.